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Serrani

Detienen A Un Boricua Que Presumian Ser Ilegal

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American Citizen Faced Deportation
Despite ID and birth certificate, Chicago man detained for three days
By ALEX PEREZ and BJ LUTZ
Updated 11:30 PM CDT, Mon, May 24, 2010


A Chicago man who spent the weekend in jail and faced deportation on suspicion he is in the country illegally said what happened to him illustrates the need for America to change the way it deals with immigration.

Eduardo Caraballo said his self-described nightmare began last week when he was arrested in connection with a stolen car case. He maintains his innocence and says the car case is still being investigated, but says the real problems began when his mother posted his bail Friday.

Instead of being released, he was told by authorities that Immigration and Customs Enforcement was detaining him because he was an illegal immigrant.

"That's crazy. Because I was born in Puerto Rico. I never knew that Puerto Rico wasn't part of the United States," the 32-year-old said Monday.


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Caraballo said he repeatedly told officers that he was born in Puerto Rico and therefore an American citizen. His mother also presented his birth certificate, but despite that and his state-issued ID, officials told him he was facing deportation.
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"I'm pretty sure they know that Puerto Ricans are citizens, but just because of the way I look -- I have Mexican features -- they pretty much assumed that my papers were fake," he said. "They were making me feel like I can't voice my opinion or I can't even speak for myself to let them know that I am a citizen."

He says officers asked him specific questions about the Caribbean island that he could not answer, mostly because he moved to the mainland when he was 8 months old and has only been back to Puerto Rico once since birth.

Almost three days later, and after his mother contacted Rep. Luis Gutierrez's office, immigration officials released Caraballo at about 2 p.m. Monday.

And now, Gutierrez, who's fighting for national immigration reform, wants answers.

"You know what this proves to you? That in Arizona, they want everybody to be able to prove they're legally in the country. They want everybody to prove that they're an American citizen. Here we had an American citizen, that the federal government, not state authorities, but the federal government, with all their technology and all their information capacity that they have, could not determine, for more than three days, his status as an American citizen. It's very, very, very dangerous ground to tread," the Chicago Democrat said.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office declined to answer specific questions about Caraballo's case, but in a statement released Monday afternoon said that he was released once his citizenship was confirmed.

Caraballo said he is considering legal action and hopes his story is a lesson.

"Immigrations should analyze the way they judge people. They can't just judge people by their color or their features, by the way they look, they should actually investigate thoroughly, and they should do that before they put the hold on somebody," he said.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/eduardo-caraballo-puerto-rico-deportion-94795779.html#ixzz0oyFQ3gJ6

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And there you have it Folks...

A law to keep out illegals almost got an American citizen deported.

Why was he even detained?

That's right, he fit the profile. But no...there's no profiling going on.

And now every American citizen will have to brush up on geography and trivia about their state in order to prove who they are.

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He was stopped because he stole a car. That he is or not a US citizen has nothing to do with cominting a felony.

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Tanta gente que roban carros en USA y no los amenazan con deportar......este caso esta rarisimo.

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[quote name='Juanporro' date='25 May 2010 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1274816450' post='2898482']
He was stopped because he stole a car. That he is or not a US citizen has nothing to do with cominting a felony.


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Juan:

Pero luego de eso parece que lo trataron como si fuera mejicano ilegal. Por lo menos eso es lo que dice el internet. Edited by Julián

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ya lo dije yo en el caso de arizona,muchos que parecen mejicanos van a tener problemas.

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[quote name='mimapr' date='25 May 2010 - 01:45 PM' timestamp='1274816758' post='2898484']
Tanta gente que roban carros en USA y no los amenazan con deportar......este caso esta rarisimo.
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esto es Chicago una cuidad bien liberal y esto viene de Serrani, que cuando pone cosas aqui te cuenta 1/4 de la historia y deja lo demas.

La ley de Arizona NO aplica a ILLINOIS....so cuando lo cogieron a el por robar un carro, algo tuvo que aparecer en el sistema para que agentes federales lo investigaran.


Recuerda, que Mejicanos ilegales les encanta robar la identidad de Boricuas porque es facil por el nombre y apellidos latinos y porque la gran mayoria de los Boricuas en la isla NO riden planilas federales y los ilegales lo pueden usar aqui para cojer el EARNED INCOME CREDIT y otras cosas.

En Chicago hay muchoooos mejicanos. :53silbando: Edited by lexuswestcoast

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[quote name='Juanporro' date='25 May 2010 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1274816450' post='2898482']
He was stopped because he stole a car. That he is or not a US citizen has nothing to do with cominting a felony.
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He could have committed murder. His actions are irrelevant to the isuue at hand.

He had a birth certificate and State ID and Chicago Police transfer him to the federals to face deportation.

I'm not a lawyer but that sounds like a violation of a citizen's rights.

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[quote name='lexuswestcoast' date='25 May 2010 - 04:54 PM' timestamp='1274817275' post='2898489']
esto es Chicago una cuidad bien liberal y esto viene de Serrani, que cuando pone cosas aqui te cuenta 1/4 de la historia y deja lo demas.

La ley de Arizona NO aplica a ILLINOIS....so cuando lo cogieron a el por robar un carro, algo tuvo que aparecer en el sistema para que agentes federales lo investigaran.


Recuerda, que Mejicanos ilegales les encanta robar la identidad de Boricuas porque es facil por el nombre y apellidos latinos y porque la gran mayoria de los Boricuas en la isla NO riden planilas federales y los ilegales lo pueden usar aqui para cojer el EARNED INCOME CREDIT y otras cosas.

En Chicago hay muchoooos mejicanos. :53silbando:
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Precisamente porque Chicago es una ciudad "liberal" fue que puse el articulo. Imaginate un Gestapo estado como Arizona los atropellos que se van a cometer si la nueva ley es efectiva.

Me haces reir que ya viene con las excusas baratas que "tuvo que ver algo en el sistema federal".

You're grasping for straws. Edited by Serrani

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si eso es en chicago que va a pasar en arizona con los portorros con pinta de mejicanos y que le digan show me your papers.y no le crean que es portorro.

ese fue el issue que hace tiempo yo vengo trayendo.

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[quote name='Serrani' date='25 May 2010 - 01:56 PM' timestamp='1274817375' post='2898491']
He could have committed murder. His actions are irrelevant to the isuue at hand.

He had a birth certificate and State ID and Chicago Police transfer him to the federals to face deportation.

I'm not a lawyer but that sounds like a violation of a citizen's rights.
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just because you have a birth certificate and state id doesn't mean that its legal. Many illegals have fake certificates and fake ids from stolen identity.


He stole a car and was held for 3 days???? wow!!! that's torture all right. Yeah they violated his rights so bad! :Animation92:

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[quote name='lexuswestcoast' date='25 May 2010 - 04:07 PM' timestamp='1274818032' post='2898495']
just because you have a birth certificate and state id doesn't mean that its legal. Many illegals have fake certificates and fake ids from stolen identity.


He stole a car and was held for 3 days???? wow!!! that's torture all right. Yeah they violated his rights so bad! :Animation92:
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para una persona que es inocente aunque sea una hora es una totura.
acaso tu has estado preso?

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[quote name='AL CAPONE' date='25 May 2010 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1274818384' post='2898499']
para una persona que es inocente aunque sea una hora es una totura.
acaso tu has estado preso?
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yo nunca me robe un carro.......si el es inocente porque el no se queja del "falso" arresto del robo de auto y demandar la policia?......porque el se queja mas de la ley federal de inmigracion?


a el no lo arrestaron por no tener papeles, a el lo arrestaron por robar un carro , algo que el NO niega. Tuvo 3 dias y lo soltaron....aperecio algo en el sistema fedeal de inmigracion....si el tiene un caso en la corte civil pues que demande.


quieren hacer un issue gigante de nada y como siempre por politica......si la agencia federal hicieron un error pues es la excepcion y no la norma pero este caso le estan dando mucha atencion por lo de Arizona....si Arizona no pasaria la ley, a este pendejo no le dan tanta atencion en la prensa. Edited by lexuswestcoast

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[quote name='lexuswestcoast' date='25 May 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1274817275' post='2898489']
esto es Chicago una cuidad bien liberal y esto viene de Serrani, que cuando pone cosas aqui te cuenta 1/4 de la historia y deja lo demas.

La ley de Arizona NO aplica a ILLINOIS....so cuando lo cogieron a el por robar un carro, algo tuvo que aparecer en el sistema para que agentes federales lo investigaran.


Recuerda, que Mejicanos ilegales les encanta robar la identidad de Boricuas porque es facil por el nombre y apellidos latinos y porque la gran mayoria de los Boricuas en la isla NO riden planilas federales y los ilegales lo pueden usar aqui para cojer el EARNED INCOME CREDIT y otras cosas.

En Chicago hay muchoooos mejicanos. :53silbando:
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Caramba Lexus:

Miraste el video de el pobre puertorro donde dice que lo jodieron por parecer mejicano.

Este puertorro parece que nunca ha ido a PR porque alla hay gente como el por doquier, ja, ja.


Sigue bebiendo esa bebida tan refrescante. Cuando lo sepa Napo!!!!!!!!!! Ay mi madre!!!!!!

[img]http://thewhitebull.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/kool_aid.jpg[/img] Edited by Julián

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[quote name='lexuswestcoast' date='25 May 2010 - 05:07 PM' timestamp='1274818032' post='2898495']
just because you have a birth certificate and state id doesn't mean that its legal. Many illegals have fake certificates and fake ids from stolen identity.


He stole a car and was held for 3 days???? wow!!! that's torture all right. Yeah they violated his rights so bad! :Animation92:
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I didn't know you were the Judge,Jury and Executioner.

In this country we are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

And read the story.He was arrested in connection with a stolen car.Not for stealing the car.

They had no legitament reason to detain him for three days.

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el se queja de que lo quieren deportar.

que harias tu si fuera tu caso,siendo tu portorro,no te crean y te quieran deportar?

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[quote name='Julián' date='25 May 2010 - 02:21 PM' timestamp='1274818863' post='2898503']
Caramba Lexus:

Miraste el video de el pobre puertorro donde dice que lo jodieron por parecer mejicano.

Este puertorro parece que nunca ha ido a PR porque alla hay gente como el por doquier, ja, ja.


Sigue bebiendo esa bebida tan refrescante. Cuando lo sepa Napo!!!!!!!!!! Ay mi madre!!!!!!

[img]http://thewhitebull.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/kool_aid.jpg[/img]
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pobre puertorro???? el tipo se robo un carro pero pobre puertorro porque tuvo 3 dias detenido?


pero que yo puedo esperar de ti......yo se que Napo es tu papi chulo ahora....


Te pregunto algo, si el pobre puertorro tiene un caso porque no demanda al gobierno federal y hace un millon facil?


De acuerdo a ti hay que botar al zafacon la leyes de inmigracion por este caso tan pendejo...... :cono:

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Demagogue-in-Chief Luis Gutierrez:

[color="#FF0000"][i]"You know what this proves to you? That in Arizona, they want everybody to be able to prove they're legally in the country. They want everybody to prove that they're an American citizen. Here we had an American citizen, that the federal government, not state authorities, but the federal government, with all their technology and all their information capacity that they have, could not determine, for more than three days, his status as an American citizen. It's very, very, very dangerous ground to tread,"
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1. It didn't happen in Arizona.

2. This happened in Chicago, an illegal alien SANCTUARY CITY, so it was the federal government (the one you pro-illegals want it to retain sole responsibility in immigration issues) who detained and questioned Mr. Caraballo.

3. [b]Could Obama's feds harbor a hidden agenda of creating 'abuse test cases' in order to discredit Arizona's new law? [/b]


Conspiracy or not, it actually gives more reason to Arizonans to take charge and solve problems within the state when the federal government is clearly incapable of solving by itself. Edited by Artaguito

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[quote name='Serrani' date='25 May 2010 - 02:21 PM' timestamp='1274818876' post='2898504']
I didn't know you were the Judge,Jury and Executioner.

In this country we are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

And read the story.He was arrested in connection with a stolen car.Not for stealing the car.

They had no legitament reason to detain him for three days.
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They can hold a person for probable cause until they further investigate......if you think he was falsely arrested he can sue in civil court and get a big fat check.....what's the issue?...You don't know all the story, you are basing your opinions by 1 side of the story.



of course the federal immigration system needs reform. Something the federal government and the past 3 U.S. presidents have refused to do.

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El otro lado del issue: el presidentito mexicano tuvo el descaro de pararse frente al cuerpo gobernante de EU y solicitar amnistía completa para TODOS LOS MEXICANOS ILEGALES en EU.

En lugar de arreglar la economía de su propio país pa q la gente no siga escapando a EU. En lugar de reconocer que en Mexico no tiene tropas asegurandose que sus ciudadanos no arriesguen sus vidas cruzando el Rio Grande. En lugar de solicitar a menos asistencia para fortalecer el desarrollo economico de su nacion y enseñando planificacion familiar para que la gente tenga familias mas pequeñas que puedan manejar el mantengo de todos los hijos.

No. El quiere que todos los que entraron ilegalmente, que no respetan la ley de primera instancia, sean recibidos como nacionales americanos sin mas.

Creo que el problema del boricua arrestado tiene que ver con racial profiling. También pienso que es estúpido por estar guiando un carro robado, aunque no lo haya robado el. Nunca se deben comprar carros sin papeles, eso es ignorante.

Pero el meollo del asunto, la razón por la cual se quieren salir tantos mexicanos de su patria, que tanto dicen querer, es que viven en la miseria. Si se desarrollara Mexico, vivirian mejor y se quedarían donde estan.

¿Porque no pueden ser mas como los chinos y los de la India, que se están educando e industrializando a creces, si quieren ser tan numerosos como los dos paises mas poblados del mundo? A lo mejor si se adueñan de la industria de la informatica como hicieron los in.dios, en lugar de llevarse las corporaciones a Bangalore todos los trabajos de computadora se los llevarían a Jalisco ...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs[/media] Edited by NewJLo

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