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Holder En La Mirilla Por Trafico De Armas Ilegal A Narcos

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Quizas en Bush SR y en Reagan... Un buen enemigo es "confiable" pues puedes contar que en toda oportunidad te va a tirar a joder, y con eso, se puede trabajar mejor que con un aliado a medias.... Dumbya es otro asunto aparte.

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[url="http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/571468/201105061854/Is-Obama-A-Gunrunner-.htm"]Is Obama A Gunrunner?[/url]
Posted 05/06/2011 06:54 PM ET

Gun Control: [u]Under a program run by the Justice Department, weapons were knowingly sold to criminals suspected of links to Mexican drug cartels, with two guns ending up at the murder scene of a border patrol agent[/u].

Considering how this administration has made a cause celebre out of gun control, the revelation of a program run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), in which weapons were transferred on purpose to Mexican drug cartels and criminals and then lost track of, is at best embarrassing and at worst an unconscionable dereliction of duty.

[b]Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder, among others, have blamed the rising violence in Mexico by the drug cartels on the transfer of weapons from the U.S. by unscrupulous gun dealers and their "straw buyers" — purchasers who may have legitimate credentials and purchase guns for those who can't legally obtain them.[/b]

[u]Yet it seems we set up an operation that wound up doing exactly that[/u].

[u]While it has been demonstrated by us and others that most of the drug cartel weaponry comes from either foreign or Mexican military sources[/u], ATF set up "Operation Gunrunner" ostensibly to trap American sources and their "straw buyers" in an elaborate sting. As documents unearthed have shown, this "sting" has gone terribly awry.

[b]The program first came to light when ATF agent John Dodson told Fox News in March that the tactic of letting guns "walk" across the Mexican border was approved by his supervisors in the Phoenix ATF office over the objections of several agents who saw the program as ill-conceived and dangerous.[/b]

ATF hoped to trace the guns and ultimately make arrests of "bigger fish" in the trafficking network. That apparently never happened, and investigators believe more than 1,300 weapons, including assault rifles, made their way into Mexico, where they were used to commit violent crimes.

Last Tuesday, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., grilled Attorney General Holder for refusing to answer questions and subpoenas about the ATF project, which allowed guns purchased illegally in the U.S. to be smuggled into Mexico on behalf of the drug cartels .

Both [b]Holder and President Obama have denied any knowledge of Gunrunner[/b].

The question is: If not, why not? Border violence recently claimed the life of Arizona rancher Robert Krentz. The El Paso City hall was recently pockmarked by bullets from cross-border violence. How many of these incidents have occurred with weapons that ATF supplied?

An internal ATF memo provided by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday showed that U.S. officials allowed criminals to buy 1,318 guns worth nearly $1 million, even after they suspected the buyers were working for Mexican drug cartels, and that the agency's effort to stop the guns had "yielded little or no results."

Grassley told Holder that he feels the Attorney General and the Department of Justice are stonewalling his investigation. He thinks that "in light of the growing evidence that the department's claims are patently false."

Two of the weapons ended up at the murder scene of a U.S. border patrol agent in Arizona, Brian Terry.

"What am I going to tell Agent Terry's mother," Issa asked Holder, "about how he died at the hands of a gun that was videotaped as it was being sold to a straw purchaser fully expecting it to end up in the hands of drug cartels?"

[b]The National Rifle Association has called for Holder's resignation over this matter. We have called for it for botching the case of the terrorists acquitted on all but one minor count in the case of the bombing of our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. There has been the ongoing fiasco of the civilian trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York and Holder's mishandling of the New Black Panther voter intimidation case.[/b]

Operation Gunrunner should be the "smoking gun" that makes it happen.

Yo creo que "Gun-Runner" fue creada para artificialmente inflar los numeros y usar esas cifras justificar mayor control de armas. Lamentablemente los agarraron en la pifia y el mangue es espectacular al incluir la muerte de un agente federal a manos de una de las armas que irresponsablemente enviaron a Mexico.

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WEPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Tiene que haber un error ya que los demo-ratas son tan legales.

Holder??? :icon_loser: Edited by Jibaro

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BY BECKY FENGER | MAY 11, 2011
[size="4"][b][color="#FF0000"][url="http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2011/110511/fenger.html"]Loopy project gunrunner[/url][/color][/b][/size]

f you asked the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to explain the purpose of their Project Gunrunner, they would tell you they wanted to stop the alleged flow of guns to drug cartels and other criminals in Mexico. That would be laughable if the consequences weren't so deadly.

It would be more accurate to say the [u]ATF wanted to track ([b]and pad[/b]) the number of guns going into Mexico in order to further their gun-control objectives[/u]. Amazingly, officials forced gun dealers, mostly near the border, to sell weapons to prohibited individuals with connections to gun smugglers. The sales were made over the objections of our law enforcement agents and gun dealers themselves. [b]The program started under President George W. Bush, with the sales going on for over two years now.[/b]

After ordering gun dealers to make the illegal sales, ATF officials forced their agents to allow these shady straw buyers to "walk across" the border without being stopped. Thousands of guns made the trip. Several of the guns were used to murder a U.S. Border Patrol agent. When ATF whistleblowers close to the situation stepped forward to speak out, they were blasted by their bosses and Justice Department officials.

[b]U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder then diabolically stepped up and accused the gun shop owners of illegally shipping guns to the Mexican drug cartels. This is after his Justice Department went so far as to put some of the more resistant ones on his payroll to do just that! To top it off, he allows the President of Mexico to come here to misrepresent the entire dog and pony show to Congress.[/b]

"The largest gunrunner to Mexican drug cartels is our government under this Administration," said Wayne LaPierre, the CEO of the National Rifle Association.

The gun dealers' worst fears and warnings came true when guns from Project Gunrunner were found at the murder scenes of U.S. Border Agent Brian Terry in December and ICE agent Jaime Zapata in February.

Eventually, word of this ridiculous Project Gunrunner, and its off-shoot, Operation Fast and Furious, bubbled to the surface. As a result, the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, under Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) started hearings this month to determine if high-ranking Justice Department officials knew about this project. Ditto for the Senate Judiciary Committee.

When Attorney General Eric Holder appeared before the senate committee, he was a paragon of blissful ignorance.[b] Asked by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) last Wednesday how guns allowed to "walk" during the federal gun sting operation ended up at Brian Terry's murder scene, Holder replied: "Frankly, I don't know." In fact, he denied giving authorization to Project Gunrunner[/b].

[u]"Holder is either monumentally stupid, or he is telling a monumental lie," stated Alan Gottlieb, chairman is the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms." He went on: "Either way, it is obvious that Holder is either hiding something or he is hiding from something."[/u]

[b]To top it off, Kenneth E. Melson, acting director of ATF, has been stonewalling and refusing to reply to a subpoena for documents from Issa's house committee. Melson has been threatened with contempt, and appears to be aided in the stonewalling by Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, leading one to surmise Eric Holder is up to his mustache in the cover-up.[/b]

[b]Here's where President Barack Obama could step forward and order the Justice Dept to comply with the subpoenas in Congress and release all of the information. That would be doubtful, since the White House is probably in bed with the Justice Dept. here. And[u] the theory is floating around the grand plan is to have Mexico sue U.S. gun dealers and shut them down for good[/u].[/b]

Congressional investigators came to Arizona last month. [b]CBS News reported one of the key figures involved in the Phoenix-based "Fast and Furious" segment of the gun-running sting may provide a link to Director of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano by way of U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke[/b]. [u]Questioned in March, Napolitano said it was "premature" to comment on the details of the controversy and [b]she was "not aware" an agent under Homeland Security was on the AFT Fast and Furious task force in Phoenix[/b][/u].

Nobody knows nothin'.

Si nos llevamos por este teatrito, no hay duda de que gobierno tenemos y la clase de liderato que este contiene:
[img]http://thejaghunter.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/shadow-government1.jpg?w=420&h=305[/img]

Tribilin de comandante en Jefe, el Pato Donald con sus sobrinos en el gabinete y "los chicos malos" a cargo de la economia.

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Y sigue la mata dando...


[color="#FF0000"][b][size="4"]Federal ATF chief said to resist pressure to step down[/size][/b][/color]
[img]http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2011-06/62632499.jpg[/img]
Kenneth Melson of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms faces controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns into Mexico. He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.

By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau

June 24, 2011
Reporting from Washington—

[b]The acting director of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is strongly resisting pressure to step down because of growing controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns to flow unchecked into Mexico, according to several federal sources in Washington.[/b]

Kenneth E. Melson, who has run the bureau for two years, [u]is reportedly eager to testify to Congress about the extent of his and other officials' involvement in the operation, code-named Fast and Furi[/u]ous.

Melson [b]does not want to be "the fall guy" for the program[/b], under which ATF agents allowed straw purchasers to acquire more than 1,700 AK-47s and other high-powered rifles from Arizona gun dealers, the sources said. The idea was to track the guns to drug cartel leaders. But that goal proved elusive, and the guns turned up at shootings in Mexico, as well as at the slaying in Arizona of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in December.

"He is saying he won't go," said one source close to the situation, who asked for anonymity because high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. "He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

Added a second source, who also requested anonymity: "He's resisting. He does not want to go."

Melson has an open invitation to appear on Capitol Hill. So far, he has not been given Justice Department approval to appear before Congress.

[u]This week, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said he hoped that Melson would give a full accounting of how the gun operation was conceived and carried out[/u]. He also said Melson should resign, and that [b]other senior leaders at ATF and the Justice Department should be held accountable as wel[/b]l.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also is awaiting answers from Melson, and cautioned this week that even if the acting director stepped down, it "would be, by no means, the end of our inquiry."

The Justice Department said it was cooperating with congressional leaders.

"We've been working with the [Issa] committee on interviews, including Melson, and will continue to do that," said Tracy Schmaler, a Justice Department spokesperson.

At ATF headquarters in Washington, officials said Melson "continues to be focused" on leading the agency. His chief spokesman, Scott Thomasson, added, "We are not going to comment on any speculations" about Melson's status as head of the agency.

At a House hearing last week, testimony from ATF agents portrayed Melson as closely involved in overseeing the venture. At one point, according to documents released by Congress, he asked for and received log-in information and a link to an Internet feed in order to watch some of the illegal straw purchases.



Que podemos esperar de la administracion?
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Y sigue la mata dando...


[color="#FF0000"][b][size="4"]Federal ATF chief said to resist pressure to step down[/size][/b][/color]
[img]http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2011-06/62632499.jpg[/img]
Kenneth Melson of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms faces controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns into Mexico. He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.

By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau

June 24, 2011
Reporting from Washington—

[b]The acting director of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is strongly resisting pressure to step down because of growing controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns to flow unchecked into Mexico, according to several federal sources in Washington.[/b]

Kenneth E. Melson, who has run the bureau for two years, [u]is reportedly eager to testify to Congress about the extent of his and other officials' involvement in the operation, code-named Fast and Furi[/u]ous.

Melson [b]does not want to be "the fall guy" for the program[/b], under which ATF agents allowed straw purchasers to acquire more than 1,700 AK-47s and other high-powered rifles from Arizona gun dealers, the sources said. The idea was to track the guns to drug cartel leaders. But that goal proved elusive, and the guns turned up at shootings in Mexico, as well as at the slaying in Arizona of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in December.

"He is saying he won't go," said one source close to the situation, who asked for anonymity because high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. "He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

Added a second source, who also requested anonymity: "He's resisting. He does not want to go."

Melson has an open invitation to appear on Capitol Hill. So far, he has not been given Justice Department approval to appear before Congress.

[u]This week, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said he hoped that Melson would give a full accounting of how the gun operation was conceived and carried out[/u]. He also said Melson should resign, and that [b]other senior leaders at ATF and the Justice Department should be held accountable as wel[/b]l.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also is awaiting answers from Melson, and cautioned this week that even if the acting director stepped down, it "would be, by no means, the end of our inquiry."

The Justice Department said it was cooperating with congressional leaders.

"We've been working with the [Issa] committee on interviews, including Melson, and will continue to do that," said Tracy Schmaler, a Justice Department spokesperson.

At ATF headquarters in Washington, officials said Melson "continues to be focused" on leading the agency. His chief spokesman, Scott Thomasson, added, "We are not going to comment on any speculations" about Melson's status as head of the agency.

At a House hearing last week, testimony from ATF agents portrayed Melson as closely involved in overseeing the venture. At one point, according to documents released by Congress, he asked for and received log-in information and a link to an Internet feed in order to watch some of the illegal straw purchases.



Que podemos esperar de la administracion?
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[color="#FF0000"][size="5"][b]Obama Administration Fires ATF Whistleblower[/b][/size][/color]
By Maxim Lott

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is being accused of retaliating against an agent who helped publicize the agency’s role in allowing thousands of guns to cross the U.S. border and fall into the hands of Mexican drug gangs.

The agent, Vince Cefalu, who has spoken out about the ATF's so-called "Project Gunrunner" scandal, says he was served with termination papers just last week, and he calls the move politically motivated.

“Aside from Jay Dobyns, I don't know of anyone that's been more vocal about ATF mismanagement than me,” said Cefalu, a senior special agent based in Dublin, Calif. “That's why this is happening.” Dobyns, an ATF special agent based in Tucson, has appeared several times on Fox News to discuss the scandal.

Cefalu first told FoxNews.com about the ATF’s embattled anti-gun smuggling operation in December, before the first reports on the story appeared in February. “Simply put, we knowingly let hundreds of guns and dozens of identified bad guys go across the border,” Cefalu said at the time.

Since then, Cefalu’s claims have been vindicated, as a number of agents with first-hand knowledge of the case came forward. The scandal over Project Gunrunner led to congressional hearings, a presidential reprimand – Obama called the operation “a serious mistake” – and speculation that ATF chief Ken Melson will resign.

Yet last week, Cefalu, who has worked for the agency for 24 years, was forced to turn in his gun and badge. He can appeal but will be on “paid administrative leave” during the process.

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Obviamente desde el principio los demócratas han estado tratando de probar el caso de que las armas que usan en los crímenes de la mafia mejicana fueron manufacturados y comprados en EEUU.

Si se puede generar data que pruebe este fenómeno, entonces eso le da excusa a los enemigos de la 2da Enmienda (lease: la mayoría de los demócratas) para enactar leyes mas restrictivas para la fabricación, venta y uso de armas de fuego.

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Esto de un Blog:

[url="http://blog.heritage.org/2011/06/29/operation-fast-and-furious-the-atf-gunrunning-scandal/"][color="#FF0000"][b][size="5"]Operation Fast and Furious: The ATF Gunrunning Scandal[/size][/b][/color][/url]Rory Cooper
June 29, 2011 at 2:30 pm

U.S. government intentionally sells assault weapons to Mexican drug cartels. Those cartels use those weapons to kill, among others, a U.S. law enforcement officer. The White House deflects questions on the subject. The director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), who watched the gun sales on video in his office, stonewalls Congress. So does the Justice Department. The whistleblower that exposed it all is fired.

Paperback novel or real-life Obama Administration scandal? Time’s up.

Just last week, Vince Cefalu, a special agent in the ATF for 24 years, was dismissed from his job after helping expose an operation code named “Operation Fast and Furious,” which was designed to purposefully put assault weapons into the hands of Mexican drug cartels so they could then be tracked to collect intelligence.

The operation itself is an exhausting series of unbelievable mistakes and lapses of judgment, but the Administration’s response is even more disturbing, as is the subdued media reaction.

According to the written testimony of Supervisory Special Agent Peter Forcelli: “ATF agents assigned to the Phoenix Field Division, with the concurrence of their local chain of command, ‘walked’ guns. ATF agents allowed weapons to be provided to individuals whom they knew would traffic them to members of Mexican drug trafficking organizations.”

The goal was to uncover larger criminal conspiracies across the border. Without informing Mexican authorities, the ATF facilitated over 2,500 assault weapons entering Mexico illegally. The only modern “tracking” method was a rigged-up GPS from Radio Shack that Forcelli took it upon himself to install, since the only other tracking method would be serial numbers on the guns. That device failed.

ATF agent John Dodson, who feared that this operation would cost lives, was told to stand down and “fall in line” by supervisors. Dodson testified to Congress: “Although my instincts made me want to intervene and interdict these weapons, my supervisors directed me and my colleagues not to make any stop or arrest.”

ATF agent Olindo James Casa agreed. Casa testified:

On several occasions I personally requested to interdict or seize firearms, but I was always ordered to stand down and not to seize the firearms.
Later, guns sold in this operation were discovered at the scene of a shootout in Arizona in December 2010 in which Customs and Border Protection agent Brian Terry was killed. As Forcelli testified: “To allow a gun to walk is idiotic.… This was a catastrophic disaster.”

Since then, we have learned that this operation had support in Washington and that its tactics were not a secret. Forcelli testified that Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley helped orchestrate the operation and that U.S. Attorney Dennis Burk “agreed with the direction of the case.” E-mails show that Deputy Assistant Director for ATF Field Operations William McMahon was “so excited about Fast and Furious that he received a special briefing on the program in Phoenix.”

Acting ATF director Kenneth Melson actually watched—yes, watched—live video surveillance of the operations from his office in Washington. He and his deputy were briefed weekly on the operation.

President Obama said in a press conference today: “My Attorney General has made clear that he wouldn’t have ordered gun running into Mexico.… That would not be an appropriate step by the ATF.” He then deflected further questions by citing an “ongoing investigation.” Press Secretary Jay Carney had previously said that the President “did not know about or authorize this operation.”

If that’s the case, how could neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder not know about an operation that everyone else at the Department of Justice seemed to be actively involved in, including the Assistant Attorney General, U.S. Attorney and head of the ATF? Melson has finally agreed to testify in the Senate in July, and hopefully that will answer some of those questions.

And it’s about time that Melson was finally authorized by Holder to testify. The Administration’s stonewalling on this subject has been embarrassing. Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote to Senator Chuck Grassley (R–IA) in February that “the allegation described in your January 27 letter—that ATF ‘sanctioned’ or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser who then transported them into Mexico—is false.” We now know that this is not true.

Weich went on:

I also want to assure you that ATF has made no attempt to retaliate against any of its agents regarding this matter. We recognize the important of protecting employees from retaliation to their disclosures of waste, fraud, and abuse. ATF employees receive annual training on their rights under the Whistleblower Protection Act.
Of course, last week, Cefalu was dismissed, allegedly as retaliation for his disclosure of waste, fraud, and abuse.

Grassley then responded with a letter to Holder with the specifics of the operation that he had previously delivered. The Department of Justice continued to ignore Congress’s requests for information. Only recently, when Congressman Darrell Issa (R–CA) held a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, did details begin to emerge and the media begin to take notice.

However, even as stories have been written, and some broadcast outlets, including Fox and ABC, have run some stories on it, the attention this story merits is not matched by the attention it is getting. ABC’s Jake Tapper asked the White House: “What is the exact date that the President learned about the Justice Department ATF operation?” Carney deflected the question.

An anonymous Justice Department source had been circulating a false story last week that Issa had been briefed on the operation in April 2010. The Washington Post published the claim despite clear evidence to the contrary and only anonymous sources. More credible and transparent reporting on the operation is vital.

As of today, the only person punished for Operation Fast and Furious has been someone who helped expose the details. Accountability for this massive operational failure is essential, and it will come only with more media attention.

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Este puede ser uno deesos escandalos que cinbran administraciones por el desden demostrado a los limites establecidos por la ley y la Constitucion... Ya los medios en general estan empezando a correr con la noticia.


[size="5"][color="#FF0000"][b]Did Justice create a false flag operation?[/b][/color][/size]
By John Fogle
TN Columnist

Published: Friday, July 1, 2011 at 4:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.

Strange things happen in politics.

[b]We can all rattle off numerous cases where someone in a “victim” category gets impatient when no one is showing bigotry toward him, and he writes threatening messages to himself and perhaps wounds himself.[/b]

[color="#FF0000"]The object, of course, is to show the world that the other side is evil. This is typically referred to as a false flag operation.[/color]
[u]Last year, during the Ground Zero mosque controversy, a left-wing mosque supporter pretended to oppose the mosque and brutally attacked a Muslim cab driver to generate anger against those who opposed the mosque[/u].

And a Republican prosecutor in Indiana recently lost his job for suggesting that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker fake an attack on himself by angry union thugs. Of course, anyone who saw the union thugs on TV knows there was really no need to exaggerate their contemptible behavior.

And, by the way, one of the Republican legislators was actually attacked — pressed against a wall by an angry mob while trying to enter the capitol building — only to be rescued by a Democratic legislator who urged restraint.

But could a Cabinet officer of the United States orchestrate a false flag operation to support administration policy?

[u]In 2009, President Barack Obama stood with the Mexican president and floated the outrageous lie that 90 percent of the guns used by the Mexican drug cartels were purchased from lawful gun dealers in the U.S.[/u] Sure. I’ll bet the drug lords sit around saying, “Gee, should I purchase a semiautomatic ArmaLite AR-10 from a U.S. dealer for $1,892 plus the cost of having a U.S. citizen deliver it across the border, or should I buy a fully automatic AK-47 on the international market for $60. Oh, decisions, decisions.”

[b]To be sure, some legal U.S. guns make their way into Mexico, but the objective of the 90 percent exaggeration was to give the Obama administration cover to crack down on legal gun sales in the U.S. and resurrect the so-called assault weapons ban.[/b]

And it appears that administration officials orchestrated a false flag operation to support that lie. Evidence points to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms using Operation Fast and Furious to prop up the political opinion that U.S. gun laws are too lax.

The ATF, a part of the Department of Justice, has lists of straw purchasers who buy guns in the U.S. and resell them to the drug cartels, and [b]a reasonable approach would be to track the guns to the border and arrest the straw purchaser, or deny the purchase on the grounds that the purchaser was lying about his intent.[/b]

[b]Instead, the ATF instituted a policy where gun dealers were instructed to sell the guns and send the serial numbers to the ATF. The ATF promised to track the guns and prevent them from falling into the wrong hands. But the ATF never actually intended to do so, and [u]starting in 2009 about 2,000 guns were knowingly sold to Mexican drug cartels[/u].[/b]

Then, in December 2010, Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was killed in Arizona, and two of the traced rifles were left at the murder scene. Hundreds of Mexicans also have been killed with these guns.

Congressman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, is investigating the matter, illustrating once again the importance of a Republican majority in the U.S. House. Democrats would never investigate this and would join Attorney General Eric Holder in trying to cover it up.

[b]There may be some reason, other than false flag, that high-ranking officials in the Justice Department encouraged the transfer of legally purchased guns to Mexican drug lords, but I can’t think of one. If you can, let me know.[/b]

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Por lo visto se le esta llenando de agua la sala de calderas al "HMS-Obama'sFolly". Estaba medio jodido con el fiasco de Operacion Gunrunner en Arizona y ahora resulta que el problemon del ATF/DEA/FBI podria ser como diceZZ-Top "We're bad, we're Nationwide"... Quien saldra a ser el Ollie North de Obama y Holder? O es que ya habra soltado prenda el ex-jefe de ATF a quien Holder y Obama decidiron "quemar" para ver si con eso despistaban las investigaciones?

[size="5"][color="#FF0000"][b]Frantic cover-up at Tampa ATF; West calls for special prosecutor[/b][/color][/size]

By Anthony Martin, Conservative Examiner

[u]In the aftermath of the explosive news late Wednesday that the Tampa office of the ATF is engaged in a gun running scheme to Honduras, sources indicate that the office went into panic mode. A frantic cover-up is underway, including the shredding of documents, according to investigative reporters David Codrea and Mke Vanderboegh[/u].

[b]The Tampa-to-Honduras leg of the massive scheme involving the running of U.S. guns to Mexico by the [color="#FF0000"]ATF--the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives[/color]--points to a much broader scandal involving multiple agencies within the federal government, including [color="#FF0000"]ICE, the DAD, DEA, DOJ, the State Department, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security[/color].[/b]

Why would so many agencies of the federal government involve themselves in a massive scheme to deliberately place U.S. guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and criminal elements in the Central American country of Honduras?

[u]The official explanation given by the government is that the scheme was concocted to trace the illegal activity of criminals in Mexico in order to eventually capture and prosecute such persons. But those captures never occurred. And no one was prosecuted. Instead, at least 2 American agents were murdered by the smuggled guns, and at least 150 Mexican citizens were slaughtered by the cartels who used American fireams given to them by the U.S. Government.[/u]

A timeline in four parts is available for those wishing to educate themselves on the magnitude--and motivation--of this scandal.

Mike Vanderboegh, one of the original reporters who helped break this story, states unequivocally that[b] the gunwalker or gunrunner scandal--also known as Operation Fast and Furious--is not just an ATF scandal but an Obama scandal. It is common knowledge that one of the ultimate goals of individuals such as Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and the United Nations--including the big money behind them such as George Soros' multi-billions--is the gradual disarmament of ordinary citizens through gun control laws[/b].


The gun smuggling scheme was implemented in order to create a sense of urgency concerning the need for enacting draconian new gun control measures. This not mere conjecture or hypothesis, nor a baseless allegation.

[b]News came yesterday that Barack Obama plans to unveil sweeping new gun control measures 'in the near future.'[/b]

Why now, and for what purpose?

Armed with phony statistics padded by the government scheme to deliberately put American guns into the hands of criminals, along with the outright lie that lax U.S. gun control laws are the driving force behind the violence of the Mexcian drug cartels, Obama can make a case for the urgent need for sweeping new gun control.

However, t[b]he plan may have backfired irreparably. U.S. Representative Darrell Issa, R-California, and Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, are hot on the trail of this sordid, unconscionable act of brazen treason[/b].

And U.S. Representative Allen West, R-Florida, is now calling for a special prosecutor to deliver indictments against those involved in setting the plan into motion. West is also calling for the immediate resignation of Attorney-General Eric Holder.


Esto es como decia "Felo Ramirez": Pica y se extiende... No se vayan que esto se esta poniendo no apto para cardiacos (democratas)...

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[color=#0000ff][b]La razon de empezar Fast and Furious fue para que estos enemigos de la Segunda Enmienda (Obama, Eric Holder, democratas) tuvieran evidencia de como armas de fuego compradas legalmente en EEUU estaban contribuyendo al crimen en Mexico, y asi enactar leyes que retringirian la compra de esas armas. O sea, usar un issue inventado por ellos mismos para tirarle la sabana a todo el mundo, como hicieron con ObamaCare.[/b][/color]



[b] [size=5]Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home[/size][/b]

[b] Guns illegally purchased under the ATF operation were found in April hidden in violence-plagued Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, court records show.[/b]



By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau
[i]October 8, 2011[color=#FFFFFF][size=2], [/size][/color]8:46 p.m.[/i]


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Reporting from Washington— High-powered assault weapons illegally purchased under the ATF's Fast and Furious program in Phoenix ended up in a home belonging to the purported top Sinaloa cartel enforcer in Ciudad Juarez,[url="http://www.latimes.com/topic/intl/mexico-PLGEO00000613.topic"]Mexico[/url], whose organization was terrorizing that city with the worst violence in the Mexican drug wars.

In all, 100 assault weapons acquired under Fast and Furious were transported 350 miles from Phoenix to El Paso, making that West Texas city a central hub for gun traffickers. Forty of the weapons made it across the border and into the arsenal of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a feared cartel leader in Ciudad Juarez, according to federal court records and trace documents from the [url="http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/bureau-of-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-explosives-ORGOV0000253.topic"]Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives[/url].

The smugglers' tactics — quickly moving the weapons far from ATF agents in southern Arizona, where it had been assumed they would circulate — vividly demonstrate that what had been viewed as a local problem was much larger. Six other Fast and Furious guns destined for El Paso were recovered in Columbus, N.M.

"These Fast and Furious guns were going to Sinaloans, and they are killing everyone down there," said one knowledgeable U.S. government source, who asked for anonymity because of the ongoing investigations. "But that's only how many we know came through Texas. Hundreds more had to get through."

Torres Marrufo, also known as "the Jaguar," has been identified by U.S. authorities as the enforcer for Sinaloa cartel chieftain Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman. The Fast and Furious weapons were found at one of Torres Marrufo's homes April 30 when Mexican police inspected the property. It was unoccupied but "showed signs of recent activity," they said.

The basement had been converted into a gym with a wall covered with built-in mirrors. Behind the mirrors they found a hidden room with the Fast and Furious weapons and dozens more, including an antiaircraft machine gun, a sniper rifle and a grenade launcher.

"We have seized the most important cache of weapons in the history of Ciudad Juarez," Chihuahua state Gov. Cesar Duarte said at the time, though he did not know that many of the weapons came from the U.S. and Fast and Furious.

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Obama se arropa en el privilegio ejecutivo...

[url="http://www.chron.com/news/article/Attorney-general-asks-White-House-to-exert-3646821.php"]http://www.chron.com/news/article/Attorney-general-asks-White-House-to-exert-3646821.php[/url]





WASHINGTON (AP) — The [url="http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Justice+Dept%22"]Justice Dept[/url] says that [b]President [url="http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Barack+Obama%22"]Barack Obama[/url] has asserted executive privilege over documents a [url="http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22House+committee%22"]House committee[/url] is seeking in an investigation of a flawed gun-smuggling probe[/b].
In a letter to Rep. [url="http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Darrell+Issa%22"]Darrell Issa[/url], R-Calif., a [url="http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Justice+Department%22"]Justice Department[/url] official said the privilege applies to documents that explain how the department learned that there were problems with the investigation called Operation Fast and Furious.

Esto apenas comienza y el presi ya da indicios de que esta tapando el escandalo de como es que su administracion alento y costeo el contrabando de armas a otro pais que ha resultado en la muerte de civiles y policias en ese pais... Digno de un pais terrorista... jQuery(function($) { $('#text').paginator('.hst-articlepager', $('.hst-articlebox').height()); });

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[b]Department of Justice[/b]
Office of Public Affairs


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, June 28, 2012
Statement of Attorney General Eric Holder on the U.S. House of Representatives Vote

Attorney General Eric Holder issued the following statement today:

“Today’s vote is the regrettable culmination of what became a misguided – and politically motivated – investigation during an election year. By advancing it over the past year and a half, Congressman Issa and others have focused on politics over public safety. Instead of trying to correct the problems that led to a series of flawed law enforcement operations, and instead of helping us find ways to better protect the brave law enforcement officers, like Agent Brian Terry, who keep us safe – they have led us to this unnecessary and unwarranted outcome.

“During this time, the men and women of the Department of Justice – and I – have remained focused on what should and must be our government’s top priority: protecting the American people.

“When concerns about Operation Fast and Furious first came to light, I took action – and ordered an independent investigation into what happened. We learned that the flawed tactics used in this operation began in the previous administration – but I made sure that they ended under this one. I also made sure that agents and prosecutors around the country knew that such tactics must never be used again. I put in place new policies, new safeguards, and new leadership to make certain of this – and took extraordinary steps to facilitate robust congressional oversight. Let me be very clear – that was my response to Operation Fast and Furious. Any suggestion to the contrary simply ignores the facts.

“I had hoped that Congressional leaders would be good-faith partners in this work. Some have. Others, however, have devoted their time and attention to making reckless charges – unsupported by fact – and to advancing truly absurd conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, these same members of Congress were nowhere to be found when the Justice Department and others invited them to help look for real solutions to the terrible problem of violence on both sides of our Southwest Border. That’s tragic, and it’s irresponsible. The problem of drugs and weapons trafficking across this border is a real and significant public safety threat – and it deserves the attention of every leader in Washington.

“In the face of these and other challenges, the Justice Department has continued to move forward in fulfilling its critical law enforcement responsibilities. Whether it is with regard to prosecuting financial and health care fraud, achieving a record mortgage settlement, taking aggressive action in protecting the most vulnerable among us, or challenging proposed voting changes and redistricting maps that could disenfranchise millions of voters – this Department of Justice has not been afraid to act.

“Some of these enforcement decisions were not politically popular and help to explain the action taken today by the House. As Attorney General, I do not look to do that which is politically expedient – on behalf of the American people whom I am privileged to serve, I seek justice.

“In recent weeks, the Justice Department secured its seventh conviction in the most serious terrorist plot our nation has faced since 9/11. And just two days ago, the Department awarded more than $100 million in grants to save or create law enforcement jobs, including more than 600 jobs for recent veterans.

“This is the kind of work that leaders in Washington should be striving together to advance. At a time when so many Americans are in need of our help, I refuse to be deterred from it. And I will not let election-year politics and gamesmanship stand in the way of continued progress.

“Today’s vote may make for good political theater in the minds of some, but it is – at base – both a crass effort and a grave disservice to the American people. They expect – and deserve – far better.

“As a result of the action taken today by the House, an unnecessary court conflict will ensue. My efforts to resolve this matter short of such a battle were rebuffed by Congressman Issa and his supporters. It’s clear that they were not interested in bringing an end to this dispute or obtaining the information they claimed to seek. Ultimately, their goal was the vote that – with the help of special interests – they now have engineered.

“Whatever the path that this matter will now follow, it will not distract me or the men and women of the Department of Justice from the important tasks that are our responsibility. A great deal of work for the American people remains to be done – I’m getting back to it. I suggest that those who orchestrated today’s vote do the same."

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Que suelte los papeles porque le dijo al congreso hacen menos de 18 meses que no sabia nada de Fast & Furious... Sin embargo el DOJ pidio millones de dolares en el 2009 para expandir la operacion Gunrunner...

[url="http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2012/120627/frontpage-Holder.html"]http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2012/120627/frontpage-Holder.html[/url]

[b] Holder, Obama and Napolitano fortified gun running operations in 2009[/b]

[b] Seems as though both Holder and Obama knew about gun running operations as early as 2009, likely earlier[/b]

WASHINGTON – The House committee voted 23-17 along party lines on June 19 to move forward with a contempt citation against Attorney General Eric Holder (r) for his failure to produce requested documents pertinent to Operation Fast and Furious, the ATF program that allowed guns to be purchased and walked into Mexico, which resulted in the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.

At the 11th hour, President Obama responded by asserting executive privilege to provide Holder with immunity from having to produce documents requested by the committee over the past year or so as part of its investigation.

The House is expected to vote sometime next week as to whether or not it will find Holder in contempt of Congress for stonewalling on the production of documents relative to the program responsible for Terry’s murder.

[u]The committee wanted to know who authorized the botched gun running operation and when Holder and or the president became aware of it.[/u]

The answer is easily ascertained by reviewing video footage from a press conference following passage of the “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009,” otherwise referred to as the “stimulus bill,” signed into law by Obama in February 2009.

The Act states its purpose as, “Making supplemental appropriations for job preservation and creation, infrastructure investment, energy efficiency and science, assistance to the unemployed, and state and local fiscal stabilization, for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2009, and for other purposes.”

[b]On page 16 of the Act, under the heading “Office of Justice Programs,” it states: “For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance,’ $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which [u]$10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.”[/u][/b]

Someone had to have requested the additional funding of $10 million for ATF’s Project Gunrunner.

During a [url="http://www.therightscoop.com/bombshell-proof-obama-and-holder-knew-about-gun-walking-in-2009/"]March 24, 2009 press conference[/url], Press Secretary Jay Carney stated, “I want to discuss an issue that’s very important to the president this morning, the steps we are taking on both sides of the border to support the Mexican government’s campaign against the violent cartels and to reduce contraband in both directions across the border … U.S. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden (r) will lay out the administration’s comprehensive response to the situation along the border with Mexico …”

Former Deputy AG Ogden stated, “Under the president’s leadership, together with the state department and DHS, the Department of Justice stands ready to take a fight to the Mexican drug cartels.

“The president has directed us to take action to fight these cartels and Attorney General Holder and I are taking several new and aggressive steps as part of the administration’s comprehensive plan.

“Those steps include the following: DOJ’s Drug Enforcement Administration, which already has the largest drug enforcement presence in Mexico with 11 offices in that country.

“It’s placing 16 new DEA positions in Southwest border field operations, specifically to target Mexican trafficking and associated violence.

[u]“DOJ’s Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives is increasing its efforts by adding 37 new employees and three new offices, using $10 million of Recovery Act funds and redeploying 100 personnel to the Southwest border in the next 45 days to fortify its Project Gunrunner, which is aimed at disrupting arms trafficking between the United States and Mexico.

“ATF is doubling its presence in Mexico itself from five to nine personnel working with the Mexicans specifically to facilitate gun tracing activity, which targets the illegal weapons and their sources in the United States.”[/u]

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano spoke at the same press conference, bolstering what Ogden had to say.

[b]From what Ogden stated in that press conference, it sure sounds as though Holder and Obama were well aware of the gun running operation in February 2009, likely earlier, as the DOJ requested and received $10 million in additional ATF funding specifically for the purpose of fortifying “Project Gunrunner.”[/b]

While correspondence might prove Obama and Holder communicated about the failed gun running operation that left Terry dead and could be withheld by asserting executive privilege, it would then mean Holder lied to the committee.

Neither scenario bodes too well for either Holder or Obama.


O Holder mintio al comite, o ni el ni Obama saben en que se gastan decenas de millones de dolares para costear operaciones que llevan armas a otro pais donde previsiblemente matan a ciudadanos de esos paises...

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Y sigue la mata dando. hay otros comentaristas, pero esta le saca ronchas a nuestr@ autoridad foristica favorita...



[b] The Fast And Furious Scandal May Be Biggest In U.S. History[/b]



By ANN COULTER
Posted 06/29/2012 05:41 PM ET


Forget executive privilege, contempt of Congress, "fast and furious," how many documents the government has produced and who said what to whom on which date.
The Obama administration has almost certainly engaged in the most shockingly vile corruption scandal in the history of the country, not counting the results of Season Eight on "American Idol."
[u]Administration officials intentionally put guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, so that when the guns taken from Mexican crime scenes turned out to be American guns, Democrats would have a reason to crack down on gun sellers in the United States.[/u]
Democrats will never stop trying to take our guns away. They see something more lethal than a salad shooter and wet themselves.
[u]But since their party was thrown out of Congress for the first time in nearly half a century as a result of passing the 1994 "assault weapons ban," even liberals know they were going to need a really good argument to pass any limitation on guns ever again.[/u]
So it's curious that Democrats all started telling the same lie about guns as soon as Obama became president. In March 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced to reporters on a trip to Mexico: "Since we know that the vast majority, 90% of that weaponry (used by Mexican drug cartels), comes from our country, we are going to try to stop it from getting there in the first place."
As she sentimentally elaborated on Fox News' Greta Van Susteren show: "The guns sold in the United States, which are illegal in Mexico, get smuggled and shipped across our border and arm these terrible drug-dealing criminals so that they can outgun these poor police officers along the border and elsewhere in Mexico."
Suddenly that 90% statistic was everywhere. It was like the statistic on women beaten by their husbands on Super Bowl Sunday.
CBS' Bob Schieffer asked Obama on "Face the Nation": "It's my understanding that 90% of the guns that they're getting down in Mexico are coming from the United States. We don't seem to be doing a very good job of cutting off the gun flow. Do you need any kind of legislative help on that front? Have you, for example, thought about asking Congress to reinstate the ban on assault weapons?"
At a Senate hearing, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said: "It is unacceptable to have 90% of the guns that are picked up in Mexico and used to shoot judges, police officers and mayors ... come from the United States."
[u]And then, thanks to Fox News — the first network to report it — we found out the 90% figure was complete bunkum. It was a fabrication told by William Hoover, of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), and then spread like wildfire by Democrats and the media.[/u]
[u]Mexican law enforcement authorities send only a fraction of the guns they recover from criminals back to the U.S. for tracing. Which guns do they send? The guns that have U.S. serial numbers on them. It would be like asking a library to produce all their Mark Twain books and then concluding that 90% of the books in that library are by Mark Twain.[/u]
You begin to see why the left hates Fox News so much.
Obama backed away from the preposterous 90% claim. His National Security Council spokesman explained to Fox News that by "recovered," they meant "guns traceable to the United States." So, in other words, Democrats were frantically citing the amazing fact that almost all the guns traceable to the U.S. were ... traceable to the U.S.
[u]Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that even if the percentage is inaccurate, the "vast majority" of guns seized in crimes in Mexico come from the United States. (And he should know, because it turns out he was sending them there!)[/u]
This was absurd. Most of the guns used by drug cartels are automatic weapons — not to mention shoulder-fired rockets — that can't be sold to most Americans. They are acquired from places like Russia, China and Guatemala.
[u]Right about the time the 90% lie was unraveling, the Obama administration decided to directly hand thousands of American guns over to Mexican criminals. Apart from the fact that tracking thousands of guns into Mexico is not feasible or rational[/u], the dumped guns didn't have GPS tracing devices on them, anyway. There is no conceivable law enforcement objective to such a program.
This is what we know:
(1) Liberals thought it would be a great argument for gun control if American guns were ending up in the hands of Mexican criminals.
(2) They wanted that to be true so badly, Democrats lied about it.
(3) After they were busted on their lie, the Obama administration began dumping thousands of guns in the hands of Mexican criminals.
We also know that hundreds of people were murdered with these U.S.-government-supplied guns, including at least one American, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
But let's look on the bright side. The ATF was originally going to ship warheads to Iran until realizing the explosions might disable the tracking devices.
([u]Contrary to more Democrat lies, there was no program to dump thousands of guns in Mexico under George W. Bush. The Bush administration did have a program that put GPS trackers on about 100 guns in order to actually trace them.[/u]
(That operation was ended almost as soon as it began because of the lack of cooperation from Mexican officials. You may as well say Holder's program was "started" by the first cop who ever put tracer dye on contraband.)
No one has explained what putting 2,500 untraceable guns in the hands of Mexican drug dealers was supposed to accomplish.
But you know what that might have accomplished? It would make the Democrats' lie retroactively true — allowing them to push for the same gun restrictions they were planning when they first concocted it. A majority of guns recovered from Mexican criminals would, at last, be American guns, because Eric Holder had put them there.
[u]Unfortunately for the Democrats, some brave whistleblower inside the government leaked details of this monstrous scheme. As soon as Congress and the public demanded answers, Holder clammed up. He just says "oops" — and accuses Republicans of racism[/u].

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