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charlie319

Boon Or Bane; Mitt Romney's Bain Capital Record Of "vulture Capitalism"

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1330487191' post='2947541']
Al memos 1- admites que Romney es tú candidato y no la paja mental esa que has estado tratando de pasar de votar por el candidato del partido.
Y 2- Que tú incides en las mismas tacticas bajas y tramposas que condenas en otros...

Bravo!!!!! Ni Napo te hubiera podido retratar con tal grado de hipocresía y cinismo... Sigues encogiendote ante la opinion publica.
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Por supuesto que Romney es mi candidato, pero esto es un proceso doble: de nominacion y de eleccion. Si por alguna razon Romney sucumbe a otro de los candidatos, eso me dice que ese otro candidato siendo el 'last man standing' esta mejor preparado para enfrentarse en la segunda parte del proceso contra el candidato democrata.

Y por supuesto cualquiera que salga nominado por el GOP es en mangitudes mejor que Barack Hussein Obama, por las razones que he explicado anteriormente, y yo voy a votar por el.

No fue ni trampa ni tactica baja de que los democratas votaran en la primaria republicana ya que es abierta al publico en general. Critico a Santorum que busque votos democratas ya que es de mi partido y expongo de que lo que paso fue porque el democrata reconoce que les gustaria enfrentarse a el mejor que a Romney. Cuando yo vote por Hillary ya McCain habia 'clinch' la nominacion, asi que vote por ella para extenderle el proceso a los democratas y para que gastaran mas dinero. Tactica completamente legitima.

Ahi sigues con tu purismo. deja que te cojan los democratas que no se quieren para nada a ver donde te metes el purismo.

Y ya es hora que dejes de llevarte el bate para tu casa porque no te gusta que te ponchen. Deja de llorar que esto es un proceso politico.

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Vas a necesitar una hoja de higo mas grande... Te destapaste tu solit@...

Negro, tu estas dispuesto a tener mas de lo mismo con tal de sacar a Obama. Yo estoy dispuesto a mantener el status quo con tal de quitarle el partido a la bola de neo-cons y oportunistas parasiticos que se han apropiado de lo que no es de ellos.

Yo no me llevo el bate a casa... Hay mejores usos para el.

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Charlie:[color=#ff0000][i][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Yo estoy dispuesto a mantener el status quo con tal de quitarle el partido a la bola de neo-cons y oportunistas parasiticos que se han apropiado de lo que no es de ellos.[/font][/i][/color]

Traducción: "Me preocupa mas la salud ideológica de mi nuevo partido aunque se joda el país."

Charlie eso como si yo dijera: Voy a tirar a los pasajeros del avión para poder salvarlo!

Que bonito! :clap:

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En otra época, se botaban los lastres de un avión que perdía altura... Pero eso, hasta un piloto unionado como tú, Lo ha de saber.

En otra época, se botaban los lastres de un avión que perdía altura... Pero eso, hasta un piloto unionado como tú, Lo ha de saber.

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Charlie: [color=#ff0000][i][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]En otra época, se botaban los lastres de un avión que perdía altura... Pero eso, hasta un piloto unionado como tú, Lo ha de saber. [/font][/i][/color]

1. Hoy en dia los aviones no tienen lastre, tienen fuel dump. Yo puedo dumpear 5000 libras por minuto en el MD-11
2. Napoleon, que tiene que ver que yo este unionado?
3. Cuando tu pones el pais a merced de un socialista que no tiene nada que perder con tal de salvar un partido politico, eso es como tirar a los pasageros para salvar el avion.

Otra analogia que te aplica:

Espetarle el carro a un arbol para no pisar el pollito en la calle.

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Precisamente el fuel dump llena la función que críticas.

Quizas por lo hipócrita de tus posturas.

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1330754488' post='2947778']
Precisamente el fuel dump llena la función que críticas.

Quizas por lo hipócrita de tus posturas.
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Eso de usar el lastre de argumento se llama "ofuscar para confundir". Perfectamente entendiste el asunto Charlie, tu estas pendiente en la salud ideologica de un partido politico (al que ni siquiera pertenecias antes), que eliminar lo mas que es 'clear and present danger' a la libertad de nuestro pais.

Otra analogia que te aplica:

Your country is about to get invaded by the Mongols and you pull the troops from the border to qualify them in basket weaving.

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Obviamente te ofuscaste ya que me diste la razon y ahora te retuerces para ver como le das para atras a tu lapso metal.

Yo he sido un republicano registrado ya por varios ciclos y encuentro curioso que tu te establezcas como la autoridad de ortodoxia conservadora en foro alguno cuando tu vives de la teta federal, estatal y del condado por medio de aportaciones que de otro modo encarecerian tu modus vivendi a tal punto que tendrian que dejar de existir por lo caro del servicio.

Tu sigue con tu ideologia de Karl Rove de tratar de ganar hoy sin prestarle atencion a el futuro y encontraras a tu ala del partido como los pobres que solo piensan en terminos tacticos por carecer capacidad de pensamiento estrategico. Por que crees que el control del sector "bushiano" ha dejado al partido carente de liderato capaz de aglutinar a la base hacia un triunfo en la rama ejecutiva? Casi una decada de Obama al timon en el partido democrata hara lo mismo con ellos y se convertira en el partido socialista GLBT espantando a muchos que hoy votan por el hoy con su seleccion de mandos dentro del partido que no comparten sus ideologias radicales. Edited by charlie319

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[b] Firm Romney Founded Is Tied to Chinese Surveillance[/b]

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Keith Bedford for The New York Times
Cities in China are installing surveillance systems with hundreds of thousands of cameras like these at a Beijing building site.
[b] By [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/j/andrew_jacobs/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]ANDREW JACOBS[/url] and PENN BULLOCK[/b]


BEIJING — As the Chinese government forges ahead on a multibillion-dollar effort to blanket the country with surveillance cameras, one American company stands to profit: Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by [url="http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/candidates/mitt-romney?inline=nyt-per"]Mitt Romney[/url].


In December, a Bain-run fund in which a Romney family blind trust has holdings purchased the video surveillance division of a Chinese company that claims to be the largest supplier to the government’s Safe Cities program, a highly advanced monitoring system that allows the authorities to watch over university campuses, hospitals, mosques and movie theaters from centralized command posts.

The Bain-owned company, [url="http://www.cn-uniview.com/yushi_site/default.htm"]Uniview Technologies[/url], produces what it calls “infrared antiriot” cameras and software that enable police officials in different jurisdictions to share images in real time through the Internet. Previous projects have included an emergency command center in Tibet that “provides a solid foundation for the maintenance of social stability and the protection of people’s peaceful life,” according to Uniview’s Web site.

Such surveillance systems are often used to combat crime and the manufacturer has no control over whether they are used for other purposes. But human rights advocates say in [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/china/index.html?inline=nyt-geo"]China[/url] they are also used to intimidate and monitor political and religious dissidents. “There are video cameras all over our monastery, and their only purpose is to make us feel fear,” said Loksag, a Tibetan Buddhist monk in Gansu Province. He said the cameras helped the authorities identify and detain nearly 200 monks who participated in a protest at his monastery in 2008.

Mr. Romney has had no role in Bain’s operations since 1999 and had no say over the investment in China. But the fortunes of Bain and Mr. Romney are still closely tied.

The financial disclosure forms Mr. Romney filed last August show that a blind trust in the name of his wife, Ann Romney, held a relatively small stake of between $100,000 and $250,000 in the Bain Capital Asia fund that purchased Uniview.

In a statement, R. Bradford Malt, who manages the Romneys’ trusts, noted that he had put trust assets into the fund before it bought Uniview. He said that the Romneys had no role in guiding their investments. He also said he had no control over the Asian fund’s choice of investments.

Mr. Romney reported on his August disclosure forms that he and his wife earned a minimum of $5.6 million from Bain assets held in their blind trusts and retirement accounts. Bain employees and executives are also among the largest donors to his campaign, and their contributions accounted for 10 percent of the money received over the past year by Restore Our Future, the pro-Romney “[url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/campaign_finance/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier"]super PAC[/url].” Bain employees have also made substantial contributions to Democratic candidates, including President Obama.

Bain’s decision to enter China’s fast-growing surveillance industry raises questions about the direct role that American corporations play in outfitting authoritarian governments with technology that can be used to repress their own citizens.

It also comes at a delicate time for Mr. Romney, who has frequently called for a hard line against the Chinese government’s suppression of religious freedom and political dissent.

As with previous deals involving other American companies, critics argue that Bain’s acquisition of Uniview violates the spirit — if not necessarily the letter — of American sanctions imposed on Beijing after the deadly crackdown on protests in Tiananmen Square. Those rules, written two decades ago, bar American corporations from exporting to China “crime-control” products like those that process fingerprints, make photo identification cards or use night vision technology.

Most video surveillance equipment is not covered by the sanctions, even though a Canadian human rights group found in 2001 that Chinese security forces used Western-made video cameras to help identify and apprehend Tiananmen Square protesters.

Representative Frank R. Wolf, Republican of Virginia, who frequently assails companies that do business with Chinese security agencies, said calls by some members of Congress to pass stricter regulations on American businesses have gone nowhere. “These companies are busy making a profit and don’t want to face realities, but what they’re doing is wrong,” said Mr. Wolf, who is co-chairman of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission.

In public comments and in a statement posted on his campaign Web site, Mr. Romney has accused the Obama administration of placing economic concerns above human rights in managing relations with China. He has called on the White House to offer more vigorous support of those who criticize the Chinese Communist Party.

“Any serious U.S. policy toward China must confront the fact that China’s regime continues to deny its people basic political freedoms and human rights,” according to the statement on his Web site. “The United States has an important role to play in encouraging the evolution of China toward a more politically open and democratic order.”

In recent years, a number of Western companies, including Honeywell, General Electric, I.B.M. and United Technologies, have been criticized for selling sophisticated surveillance-related technology to the Chinese government.

Other companies have been accused of directly helping China quash perceived opponents. In 2007, Yahoo settled a lawsuit asserting that it had provided the authorities with e-mails of a journalist who was later sentenced to 10 years in prison for sending an e-mail that prosecutors charged contained state secrets.

Cisco Systems is fighting a lawsuit in the United States filed by a human rights group over Internet networking equipment it sold to the Chinese government. The lawsuit asserts that the system, tailored to government demands, allowed the authorities to track down and torture members of the religious group Falun Gong.

Bain defended its purchase of Uniview, stressing that the Chinese company’s products were advertised as instruments for crime control, not political repression. “China’s increasingly urban population will face growing needs around personal safety and property protection,” the company said in a statement. “Video surveillance is part of the solution to that, as it is anywhere in the world.” The company also said that only one-third of Uniview’s sales were to public security bureaus.
William A. Reinsch, president of the National Foreign Trade Council in Washington, said it was up to the American government, not individual companies, to set the guidelines for such business ventures. “A lot of the stuff we’re talking about is truly dual use,” said Mr. Reinsch, a former Commerce Department official in the Clinton administration. “You can sell it to a local police force that will use it to track down speeders, but you can also sell it to a ministry of state security that will use it to monitor dissidents.”

But Adam Segal, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and an expert on the intersection of technology and domestic security in China, said American companies could not shirk responsibility for the way their technology is used, especially in the wake of recent controversies over the sales of Western Internet filtering systems to autocratic rulers in the Arab world. “Technology companies have to begin to think about the ethics and political implications of selling these technologies,” he said.

Uniview is proud of its close association with China’s security establishment and boasts about the scores of surveillance systems it has created for local security agencies in the six years since the Safe Cities program was started.

“Social management and society building pose new demands for surveillance and control systems,” Uniview says in its promotional materials, which include an interview with Zhang Pengguo, the company’s chief executive. “A harmonious society is the essential nature of socialism with Chinese characteristics,” Mr. Zhang says.
Until now, Bain’s takeover of Uniview has drawn little attention outside China. The company was formerly the surveillance division of H3C, a joint venture between 3Com and Huawei, the Chinese telecommunications giant whose expansion plans in the United States have faced resistance from Congress over questions about its ties to the Chinese military.
In 2010, 3Com, along with H3C, became a subsidiary of Hewlett-Packard in a $2.7 billion buyout deal.
H3C also sells technology unrelated to video surveillance, including Internet firewall products, but it was the video surveillance division alone that drew Bain Capital’s interest.
In December, H3C announced that Bain had bought out the surveillance division and formed Uniview, although under terms of the buyout, H3C provides Uniview with products, technical support and, for a period of time, the use of its brand name. Bain controls Uniview but says it has no role in its day-to-day operations.

Bain is, however, well positioned to profit. According to the British firm IMS Research, the Chinese market for security camera networks was $2.5 billion last year, a figure that is expected to double by 2015, with more than two-thirds of that demand coming from the government. Uniview currently has just 1 percent of the market, the firm said.

Chinese cities are rushing to construct their own surveillance systems. Chongqing, in southwest China, is spending $4.2 billion on a network of 500,000 cameras, according to the state news media. Guangdong Province, the manufacturing powerhouse adjacent to Hong Kong, is mounting one million cameras. In Beijing, the municipal government is seeking to place cameras in all entertainment venues, adding to the skein of 300,000 cameras that were installed here for the 2008 Olympics.
By marrying Internet, cellphone and video surveillance, the government is seeking to create an omniscient monitoring system, said Nicholas Bequelin, a senior researcher at Human Rights Watch in Hong Kong. “When it comes to surveillance, China is pretty upfront about its totalitarian ambitions,” he said.
For the legion of Chinese intellectuals, democracy advocates and religious figures who have tangled with the government, surveillance cameras have become inescapable.

Yang Weidong, a politically active filmmaker, said a phalanx of 13 cameras were installed in and around his apartment building last year after he submitted an interview request to President Hu Jintao, drawing the ire of domestic security agents. In January, Ai Weiwei, the artist and public critic, was questioned by the police after he threw stones at cameras trained on his front gate.

Li Tiantian, 45, a human rights lawyer in Shanghai, said the police used footage recorded outside a hotel in an effort to manipulate her during the three months she was illegally detained last year. The video, she said, showed her entering the hotel in the company of men other than her boyfriend.
During interrogations, Ms. Li said, the police taunted her about her sex life and threatened to show the video to her boyfriend. The boyfriend, however, refused to watch, she said.
“The scale of intrusion into people’s private lives is unprecedented,” she said in a phone interview. “Now when I walk on the street, I feel so vulnerable, like the police are watching me all the time.”

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Are implying that Romney is a spy?

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Y aun asi dicen que no pueden ubicar a los ilegales para deportarlos ni a sus patronos y caseros para multarlos....

Una noticia de aliento para RoboMitt:

Obama Reelection Team Embraces the Term “Obamacare”

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Affordable Care Act, better known as “Obamacare” has gotten kicked around a lot on the last few weeks. Now after being slammed around by Republicans for two years there is one person who wants to own the term “Obamacare”…President [url="http://www.inquisitr.com/209992/obama-reelection-team-embraces-the-term-obmacar/#"]Obama[/url] himself!
While polls consistently show that the American public is [url="http://www.inquisitr.com/207489/new-poll-shows-67-oppose-obamacares-individual-mandate/"]against Obamacare[/url], President Obama’s reelection campaign is taking out an entire merchandise line with the term “Obamacare” all over it. Obama wants to embrace the word that has hung like an albatross around his neck and own it.
On Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell took to the airwaves to tease President Obama about Obamacare wondering out loud why no one was having a cake made to celebrate its anniversary.
McConnell said,[indent]
“President Obama was right to attempt a reform; he joined a long list of members of both parties who want to see our health care system improved. But Obamacare clearly isn’t the answer. And two years after its passage, Americans have now come to their own conclusion. They don’t like it, they think it’s unconstitutional, and they want it repealed. The time has come to clear the way and start over, to replace this unconstitutional law with common-sense, step-by-step reforms that lower costs and Americans support,”[/indent]
President Obama’s campaign manager Jim Messina is urging supporters to sign an “I Like Obamacare” Petition. He said,[indent]
“What’s not to like? Obamacare means you won’t have to pay out of pocket for preventive care like cancer screenings and birth control, [url="http://www.inquisitr.com/209992/obama-reelection-team-embraces-the-term-obmacar/#"]insurance companies[/url] can no longer drop people when they get sick or refuse coverage for ‘pre-existing conditions,’ and women won’t have to pay more just for being women. The bottom line is, the more people know about health care reform, the more they like it. So make sure your friends and family know that Obamacare is something to be proud of — and worth fighting for,” he said, directing people to the petition.[/indent]
President Obama and the Democratic National Committee is working hard to convince women,who will be a key demographic in his reelection [url="http://www.inquisitr.com/209992/obama-reelection-team-embraces-the-term-obmacar/#"]bid[/url], to support Obamacare because they claim Republicans are trying to roll back access to abortion, contraception and other women’s health services.
Republicans are equally in “I told you so” mode. They are making a case that when the government takes over healthcare services, they dangle election year treats in front od demographics they want to vote for them.


Proximo termino a ser reconocido por Team Obama: "Obama-money"
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