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charlie319

Es George Zimmerman, El Matador De Trayvon Martin, Blanco O Peruano/hispano

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[quote name='mimapr' timestamp='1334172423' post='2949849']
Yo creo que Charlie se retiro del tema....jajajajajajajajajajajajaja



April 11, 2012 2:39 PM

[b] Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case[/b]




[i]Updated 3:15 PM ET[/i]

(CBS/AP) CBS News has confirmed that neighborhood watch volunteer George [b]Zimmerman will be charged in the February shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla.[/b]
State Attorney Angela Corey is scheduled to hold a news conference at 6 p.m. Wednesday at the state attorney's office in Jacksonville, Florida related to the Martin investigation.

According to a senior law enforcement official, Corey is expected to announce that Zimmerman will face state charges. The number or nature of the charges was not immediately known.
Zimmerman says he shot Martin in self-defense after following the teenager in a Sanford gated community outside Orlando on Feb. 26. He said he was returning to his truck when Martin attacked him and that he shot the unarmed teen during the fight. He was briefly held by police but was not arrested, in part because of Florida's "stand your ground" self-defense law.

[url="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57412535/zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-case/"]http://www.cbsnews.c...on-martin-case/[/url]
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No le queda mas remedio, acuerdate que el pitiyanqui tiene el cuero finito y es mal perderdor....perdedor por demas, pero malo.

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Tuco y Teco; Las urracas parlanchinas les gusta confundir la actividad con los logros... Esto de que lo hayan encausado por asesinato no es del todo malo como les explica aqui Alan Dershowitz:

[b] Prosecutor's quandary: Zimmerman may be indicted, then acquitted[/b]


By [b]Alan M. Dershowitz[/b] , Special to [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]CNN[/url]
updated 11:37 AM EDT, Wed April 11, 2012


[i][b]Editor's note:[/b] [url="http://www.alandershowitz.com/"]Alan Dershowitz[/url] is the Felix Frankfurter professor of law at Harvard Law School. [/i]
[b](CNN)[/b] -- On the basis of the evidence currently in [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]the public record[/url], [u]one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him[/u].
Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]special[/url] prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.
[u]Media reports suggest that police found Zimmerman with grass stains on the back of his shirt, bloody bruises on the back of his head and other indicia that may support his contention that Trayvon Martin was banging his head against the ground when Zimmerman shot him[/u].

We don't know what Martin's body or clothing show, other than the fatal bullet wound. [u]If there are no comparable bruises or grass stains and if the bullet wound and powder residue establish that the gun was fired at very close range, this too might support a [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]claim[/url] of self-defense.[/u]
Then there is a recorded cry for help, which, if it turns out to be the voice of Martin, would undercut the defense -- if the voice analysis passes scientific muster and is deemed admissible into evidence.
There may be additional forensic evidence -- or witnesses -- of which we are now unaware, though [u]it is unlikely there is a "smoking gun[/u]."
[u]Finally, there is the overarching and historically painful reality that [b]an unarmed black teenager lies dead at the hand of an armed Hispanic man [/b]who ignored a dispatcher's advice not to follow and engage the "suspect," and who may have -- and this too is forensically unclear -- uttered a racial epithet while chasing him[/u].
These "facts" give rise to several possible scenarios of what may actually have occurred on that dark rainy night. [u]Under the Florida self-defense statute, it matters greatly what happened, most especially who "initially provoke[d] the use of force," [b]and who started the physical encounter[/b].[/u]
If Zimmerman initially provoked the deadly encounter, then he cannot invoke any "stand your ground" defense. He would then be under a legal obligation to "exhaust ... every reasonable means to escape."
Though this statute is anything but a model of clarity, it does suggest that whoever "provokes" a deadly encounter has a heavy burden of justification in claiming self-defense. But [u]the statute doesn't define "provokes," and that ambiguous word may hold the key to the outcome of this tragic case[/u].
[u]If provocation is limited to a physical assault, and if Zimmerman's [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]account[/url] that Martin blindsided him with a punch is believed, then Zimmerman did not provoke the encounter[/u]. [u]But if provocation includes following the victim and harassing him, then Zimmerman may well qualify as a provocateur. Moreover, a jury may believe that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation by grabbing Martin. This would almost certainly constitute provocation[/u].
[u]But to complicate matters further, even a provocateur has the legal right to defend himself under Florida law if he can't escape and if he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, as Zimmerman claims he was[/u].
All this goes to show how factually driven this case is under Florida law. And we don't yet know all the facts. The special prosecutor, who has said she will not use a grand jury to decide whether to indict Zimmerman, has an obligation to consider all the evidence and to apply the law to the facts.
[b]All she needs in order to indict is probable cause that a crime has been committed[/b]. [u]A jury that ultimately decides whether the defendant is guilty needs much more: proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But what if a prosecutor concludes that there is both probable cause and a reasonable doubt?[/u]
That is the nightmare scenario that this prosecutor may well face. [u]In ordinary circumstances, most prosecutors would not bring such a case, because it would be a waste of resources to indict someone who will probably be acquitted. But this is anything but a run-of-the-mill case[/u].
Moreover, [u]the Florida statute provides an additional layer of protection to a defendant claiming self-defense: A judge must decide whether the defendant is "immune from prosecution," that is, if the judge believes his actions fall under the law of self-defense.[/u]
[u]So the following mixed outcome is certainly possible: The special prosecutor indicts; the judge does or doesn't grant immunity; if he doesn't, the jury acquits.[/u]
Many people would be unhappy with such a mixed outcome, but it is not the job of the law to make people happy.

Avisenme cuando tengan alguna noticia contundente en este casito que recuerda el libro y pelicula "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bonfire_of_the_Vanities"]The Bonfire of the Vanities[/url]" y preparense para el muy probable pasme en este sonado caso de ansiedades entre dos grupos de minoria que se ha formado pensando que el hispano era un blanquito... Ya veremos al Zimmerman demandando a cierta televisora que disemino una audiograbacion manoseada en su busqueda de sensacionalismo... Muy parecido a ciertos rabiosos que se creen que este caso es de blancos y negros o republicanos contra democratas cuando se trata de una sociedad que se siente sitiada por un sector de la poblacion que incide en crimen de manera habitual y casi impune.

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1334183471' post='2949863']
Tuco y Teco; Las urracas parlanchinas les gusta confundir la actividad con los logros... Esto de que lo hayan encausado por asesinato no es del todo malo como les explica aqui Alan Dershowitz:

[b] Prosecutor's quandary: Zimmerman may be indicted, then acquitted[/b]


By [b]Alan M. Dershowitz[/b] , Special to [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]CNN[/url]
updated 11:37 AM EDT, Wed April 11, 2012


[i][b]Editor's note:[/b] [url="http://www.alandershowitz.com/"]Alan Dershowitz[/url] is the Felix Frankfurter professor of law at Harvard Law School. [/i]
[b](CNN)[/b] -- On the basis of the evidence currently in [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]the public record[/url], [u]one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him[/u].
Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]special[/url] prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.
[u]Media reports suggest that police found Zimmerman with grass stains on the back of his shirt, bloody bruises on the back of his head and other indicia that may support his contention that Trayvon Martin was banging his head against the ground when Zimmerman shot him[/u].

We don't know what Martin's body or clothing show, other than the fatal bullet wound. [u]If there are no comparable bruises or grass stains and if the bullet wound and powder residue establish that the gun was fired at very close range, this too might support a [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]claim[/url] of self-defense.[/u]
Then there is a recorded cry for help, which, if it turns out to be the voice of Martin, would undercut the defense -- if the voice analysis passes scientific muster and is deemed admissible into evidence.
There may be additional forensic evidence -- or witnesses -- of which we are now unaware, though [u]it is unlikely there is a "smoking gun[/u]."
[u]Finally, there is the overarching and historically painful reality that [b]an unarmed black teenager lies dead at the hand of an armed Hispanic man [/b]who ignored a dispatcher's advice not to follow and engage the "suspect," and who may have -- and this too is forensically unclear -- uttered a racial epithet while chasing him[/u].
These "facts" give rise to several possible scenarios of what may actually have occurred on that dark rainy night. [u]Under the Florida self-defense statute, it matters greatly what happened, most especially who "initially provoke[d] the use of force," [b]and who started the physical encounter[/b].[/u]
If Zimmerman initially provoked the deadly encounter, then he cannot invoke any "stand your ground" defense. He would then be under a legal obligation to "exhaust ... every reasonable means to escape."
Though this statute is anything but a model of clarity, it does suggest that whoever "provokes" a deadly encounter has a heavy burden of justification in claiming self-defense. But [u]the statute doesn't define "provokes," and that ambiguous word may hold the key to the outcome of this tragic case[/u].
[u]If provocation is limited to a physical assault, and if Zimmerman's [url="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1#"]account[/url] that Martin blindsided him with a punch is believed, then Zimmerman did not provoke the encounter[/u]. [u]But if provocation includes following the victim and harassing him, then Zimmerman may well qualify as a provocateur. Moreover, a jury may believe that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation by grabbing Martin. This would almost certainly constitute provocation[/u].
[u]But to complicate matters further, even a provocateur has the legal right to defend himself under Florida law if he can't escape and if he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, as Zimmerman claims he was[/u].
All this goes to show how factually driven this case is under Florida law. And we don't yet know all the facts. The special prosecutor, who has said she will not use a grand jury to decide whether to indict Zimmerman, has an obligation to consider all the evidence and to apply the law to the facts.
[b]All she needs in order to indict is probable cause that a crime has been committed[/b]. [u]A jury that ultimately decides whether the defendant is guilty needs much more: proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But what if a prosecutor concludes that there is both probable cause and a reasonable doubt?[/u]
That is the nightmare scenario that this prosecutor may well face. [u]In ordinary circumstances, most prosecutors would not bring such a case, because it would be a waste of resources to indict someone who will probably be acquitted. But this is anything but a run-of-the-mill case[/u].
Moreover, [u]the Florida statute provides an additional layer of protection to a defendant claiming self-defense: A judge must decide whether the defendant is "immune from prosecution," that is, if the judge believes his actions fall under the law of self-defense.[/u]
[u]So the following mixed outcome is certainly possible: The special prosecutor indicts; the judge does or doesn't grant immunity; if he doesn't, the jury acquits.[/u]
Many people would be unhappy with such a mixed outcome, but it is not the job of the law to make people happy.

Avisenme cuando tengan alguna noticia contundente en este casito que recuerda el libro y pelicula "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bonfire_of_the_Vanities"]The Bonfire of the Vanities[/url]" y preparense para el muy probable pasme en este sonado caso de ansiedades entre dos grupos de minoria que se ha formado pensando que el hispano era un blanquito... Ya veremos al Zimmerman demandando a cierta televisora que disemino una audiograbacion manoseada en su busqueda de sensacionalismo... Muy parecido a ciertos rabiosos que se creen que este caso es de blancos y negros o republicanos contra democratas cuando se trata de una sociedad que se siente sitiada por un sector de la poblacion que incide en crimen de manera habitual y casi impune.
[/quote]

Y de donde tu sacaste este reportaje de la pagina de walter mercado? Alguien tiene una bola de cristal para saber que va a pasar? O esos son los supuestos abogados del asesino, los mismos que nunca lo han visto en persona? Negra vas a tener que buscar a tu alicate para que te aplaudan lo poca credibilidad que te queda, en este tema te colgaste. Primero dijiste que el tipo era democrata y resulta que llamo a Faux News y nada mas y nada menos que a Hanitty para pedir ayuda. Te has dado con 20 piedras en el pechito declarando su inocencia y hoy lo arrestaron lo mas seguro porque sus supuestos abogados chotearon que el tipo andaba desaparecido. Ahora dices que va a salir bien.... dime negrita, te queda otra fantasia por depotricar?

Al parecer cuando todo esta perdido te dedicas a leer al primero que empieze a especular... como dicen por ahi... de la esperanza vive el pobre....

Bendito nene....que brutt!!! que brutt!!!

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Napo dito es que parece que Minga anda triste sin Petraca....jejejejejejeje . Tambien ha dicho que le pueden dar cadena perpetua al Zimmerman. :whistle:

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[quote name='mimapr' timestamp='1334189948' post='2949876']
Napo dito es que parece que Minga anda triste sin Petraca....jejejejejejeje . Tambien ha dicho que le pueden dar cadena perpetua al Zimmerman. :whistle:
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Oye esta bien depresiva y melancolica verdad? Se ha puesto insoportable sin su alicate, si esto fuera en vivo supieramos donde esta por el rastro de lagrimones que deja. Yo nunca la he visto asi, ni siquiera cuando lo machuco y lo pongo en verguenza. Esto es un nuevo "low" para la Carlota!!! No habra un sicologo en el foro que la pueda ayudar....estoy hasta preocupado.

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Vaya con el corillo de Kumbaya... Lo saqué de CNN y el tipo es una lumbrera legal... Algo que ustedes no reconocerían aunque les nordiera el "nies"... Edited by charlie319

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1334194608' post='2949881']
Vaya con el corillo de Kumbaya... Lo saqué de CNN y el tipo es una lumbrera legal... Algo que ustedes no reconocerían aunque les nordiera el "nies"...
[/quote]

Especulando y velando guira negrita, retirate con dignidad.....

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a este tipo le van a dar cargos de "'second degree murder"... :training:

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Aqui quienes estan velando guira son los padrotes del racismo institucionalizado como los Al Sharptons del mundo y el abogado picapleitos de la madre del occiso que no espero a que el crio estuviera muerto para comercializar su memoria... Ahhhh, y ustedes tres alucinados que se fueron con la finta de que el tipo era "blanco" (Gringo) y cuando se dieron cuenta de que no solo no era "blanco" sino hispano como ustedes y encima de eso Democrata registrado, que al nene le encontraron joyeria y herramientas en su mochila, pues ya estaban clavados hasta donde dice "made in taiwan" como para lograr una retirada honorable, asi que van a sacrificar al pobre hispano democrata en la hoguera de las vanidades...

Mientras tanto, se ha filtrado que el querubin que resulto muerto no solo tenia joyeria de mujer en su mochila ademas de una herramienta usada para ingresar ilegalmente a una vivienda con propositos de robo, sino que su foja delictiva ha ido creciendo calladamente con cargos de acometiminto a un conductor de autobus y posesion de una pipa de marihuana y marihuana. Ciertamente este muchacho, es dificil llamar nino a un manganzon de mas de 6 pies de alto que practicaba el deporte del futbol americano y que ya habia sido suspendido de la escuela un par de veces desde Octubre del 2011 (o sea en menos de un semestre). Ciertamente lamento la perdid del hijo a su madre y padre (por lo visto no estan casados ni vivian juntos) pero el "nene" iba camino a ser uno mas de la multitud de mozalbetes que pululan las carceles esperando el dia en que sean puestos en libertad para delinquir de nuevo.

Ahora, "chavo del ocho" (Napo), preguntaste de donde saque el comentario y ya te lo respondi. Debate tu ahora contra la opinion del gran Allan Dershowitz (profesor de la silla [i]Felix Frankfurter [/i]en la escuela de leyes del chinchorro ese llamado Harvard al que tu no te dignaste a ir si es que te invitaron) porque lo que son unstedes tres estan tan cegados por el odio al blanco, al republicano, al conservador y todo lo asociado con ellos que no se dan cuenta cuando un caso se lleva a corte por razones meramente politicas con la real expectativa de que el juez y/o el jurado lo van a rebotar por no ser probado sin duda razonable en base a unas evidencias que lejos de probar la culpa de Zimmerman apunta a una resolucion exculpatoria. Digo, para mi seria mucho ms sencillo decirte que estas fantaseando junto a la pareja del poder, pero la verdad es mas entretenido ponerlos a ustedes tres en evidencia de que no ven la verdad ni aunque les pegara en la cara como los huevos a esa parte de la anatomia conocida como la sarten... y parecida en mucho a ustedes que no ven la luz del sol. Dershowitz hace un analisis basado en lo que se sabe al dia de hoy y el llega a la conclusion de que aunque hay con que llevarlo a juicio, tambien hay con que hallarlo no-culpable. Fijate que unavez el caso revento como petardo de que el nene no era un angelito, que el Zimmerman no era blanco y que el "nene" le estaba dando una tunda, Sharpton Jesse y los demas chulos de putas raciales se han evaporado del entorno de este fiasco. Hasta la videocadena que altero las audiograbaciones de la llamada de 911 par inflamar la opinion publica esta buscando de como zafarse de la demanda que le viene para encima cuando hallen que Zimerman no es culpable... No hablemos del fiasco que Spike Lee ocasiono al hacer publica la que el pensaba ser los datos de Zimmerman... y resulto ser de una pareja de envejecientes que fueron hostigados por culpa de ese mequetrefe...

Voy a disfrutar cuando este huevo se les reviente en la cara como los que gopean la sarten.... If you know what I mean...

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1334255953' post='2949914']
Aqui quienes estan velando guira son los padrotes del racismo institucionalizado como los Al Sharptons del mundo y el abogado picapleitos de la madre del occiso que no espero a que el crio estuviera muerto para comercializar su memoria... Ahhhh, y ustedes tres alucinados que se fueron con la finta de que el tipo era "blanco" (Gringo) y cuando se dieron cuenta de que no solo no era "blanco" sino hispano como ustedes y encima de eso Democrata registrado, que al nene le encontraron joyeria y herramientas en su mochila, pues ya estaban clavados hasta donde dice "made in taiwan" como para lograr una retirada honorable, asi que van a sacrificar al pobre hispano democrata en la hoguera de las vanidades...

Mientras tanto, se ha filtrado que el querubin que resulto muerto no solo tenia joyeria de mujer en su mochila ademas de una herramienta usada para ingresar ilegalmente a una vivienda con propositos de robo, sino que su foja delictiva ha ido creciendo calladamente con cargos de acometiminto a un conductor de autobus y posesion de una pipa de marihuana y marihuana. Ciertamente este muchacho, es dificil llamar nino a un manganzon de mas de 6 pies de alto que practicaba el deporte del futbol americano y que ya habia sido suspendido de la escuela un par de veces desde Octubre del 2011 (o sea en menos de un semestre). Ciertamente lamento la perdid del hijo a su madre y padre (por lo visto no estan casados ni vivian juntos) pero el "nene" iba camino a ser uno mas de la multitud de mozalbetes que pululan las carceles esperando el dia en que sean puestos en libertad para delinquir de nuevo.

Ahora, "chavo del ocho" (Napo), preguntaste de donde saque el comentario y ya te lo respondi. Debate tu ahora contra la opinion del gran Allan Dershowitz (profesor de la silla [i]Felix Frankfurter [/i]en la escuela de leyes del chinchorro ese llamado Harvard al que tu no te dignaste a ir si es que te invitaron) porque lo que son unstedes tres estan tan cegados por el odio al blanco, al republicano, al conservador y todo lo asociado con ellos que no se dan cuenta cuando un caso se lleva a corte por razones meramente politicas con la real expectativa de que el juez y/o el jurado lo van a rebotar por no ser probado sin duda razonable en base a unas evidencias que lejos de probar la culpa de Zimmerman apunta a una resolucion exculpatoria. Digo, para mi seria mucho ms sencillo decirte que estas fantaseando junto a la pareja del poder, pero la verdad es mas entretenido ponerlos a ustedes tres en evidencia de que no ven la verdad ni aunque les pegara en la cara como los huevos a esa parte de la anatomia conocida como la sarten... y parecida en mucho a ustedes que no ven la luz del sol. Dershowitz hace un analisis basado en lo que se sabe al dia de hoy y el llega a la conclusion de que aunque hay con que llevarlo a juicio, tambien hay con que hallarlo no-culpable. Fijate que unavez el caso revento como petardo de que el nene no era un angelito, que el Zimmerman no era blanco y que el "nene" le estaba dando una tunda, Sharpton Jesse y los demas chulos de putas raciales se han evaporado del entorno de este fiasco. Hasta la videocadena que altero las audiograbaciones de la llamada de 911 par inflamar la opinion publica esta buscando de como zafarse de la demanda que le viene para encima cuando hallen que Zimerman no es culpable... No hablemos del fiasco que Spike Lee ocasiono al hacer publica la que el pensaba ser los datos de Zimmerman... y resulto ser de una pareja de envejecientes que fueron hostigados por culpa de ese mequetrefe...

Voy a disfrutar cuando este huevo se les reviente en la cara como los que gopean la sarten.... If you know what I mean...
[/quote]

AHHHJAJAJAJAJAJAJA ay la Carlota!!! Le ha montado una defensa a este republikkkano a base de chisme. Oye negrita antes de que sigas haciendo este papelon fijate en el cargo, aqui Jorgito el hispanito, democratito (segun tu) NO esta acusado de un crimen de odio. Jorgito el hispanido santito de tu devocion porque le gustan las pistolas y las usa en contra de los negros esta acusado de asesinato en segundo grado. La defensa del tipo no es que el es hispano y por lo tanto no es racista, como si los hispanos no pudieran ser racistas. Un vistazo a ti le cambiaria esa idea a cualquiera.

Aqui los racistas son la policia de Sanford a los que no han acusado...todavia, pero que muy posiblemente le metan un caso de seccion 1983 por violacion a los derechos civiles. En cuanto a tu hispano favorito, va a tener que probar que NO tenia otra alternativa que matarlo, claro tendra primero que explicar como es que si temia por su vida se le acerco a confrontarlo, mas cuando el operador del 911 le dijo QUE NO SE LE ACERCARA Y QUE ESPERARA LA POLICIA.

Mientras sigue pescando en el internet por una opinion que favorezca tu falta de sentido comun venga de quien venga. Los hechos estan ahi, debate sobre lo que se sabe hasta ahora y no sigas especulando que en este tema te has quedado pato...pato...pato.....

Bendito nene

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Ahora, quien esta especulando con esas ansias de "seccion 1983"?

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1334269636' post='2949922']
Ahora, quien esta especulando con esas ansias de "seccion 1983"?
[/quote]


Pero no te has enterado negrita? Que el departamento de justicia esta viendo como puede intervenir? Que tu crees que van hacer los federales, demandar usando una ley estatal? Estan buscando demandar por violacion de derechos civiles, bajo la seccion 1983 es la unica forma que podrian demandar a la policia si es que le van a meter mano. Contrario a tu intento de pescar una opinion editorial que apoye tu teoria. Lo mio negrita es noticia, no opinion.

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bueno ya hicieron al menos el gesto de arrestarlo, aunque sea para demostrar que las autoridades tienen verguenza, ahora a ver que surge de este caso y como lo manejan tanto las autoridades y la rama judicial como los afroamericanos al enterarse del veredicto ...

lo ultimo que hace falta en un año de elecciones y de Occupy Wall Street es otro Rodney King riots ... Edited by NewJLo

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Eso es lo que no entiende la porrista democrata grullera... La izquierda racialista anda buscando la manera de galvanizar el voto negro que de por si ya esta descontento con la falta de logros del Urkel de la oficina ovalada para con sus hermanitos sepias... Bueno, medio hermanos... Ya lo veo, cuando se vea con e lagua al cuello, con fracasos en la corte suprema de las demandas contra Obamacare y su propia demanda contra Arizona por la SB1070 resultandole adversa, saliendo en television con su "Hoodie" y declararse qeu el tambien es Trayvon Martin...

Este es un caso agitado por los medios de comunicacion que saben como esta la cosa con su candidato y andan buscando a ver como le dan la vuelta a la rosca para quitarle el tufo a fracaso que trae. Pero volviendo al tema de la hoguera de las vanidades, aqui esta la opinion de otra mente legal:
[b] Prosecutor aimed too high with second degree murder charges in Trayvon Martin case[/b]

[url="http://www.minotdailynews.com/page/blogs.listAll/display/30/Andrea-Johnson.html"]Andrea's Agenda[/url]
[b] April 12, 2012 - Andrea Johnson[/b]

So neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman is facing second degree murder charges for the Feb. 26 killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla.
I guess we will have to wait and see the results of the case, but I think the special prosecutor is likely aiming too high in bringing second degree murder charges, which alleges that Zimmerman deliberately murdered the boy.
According to news reports, [u]the shooting was the result of an altercation between the 28-year-old Zimmerman, whose father is white and whose mother is originally from Peru and who identifies himself as Hispanic, and Martin, who was black[/u]. Martin was walking back from a trip to the store, chatting on his cell phone with his girlfriend, when neighborhood watch volunteer Zimmerman spotted him and thought he looked suspicious. Zimmerman called the police dispatcher and reported as much and said he was going to follow Martin; the dispatcher told him he didn't need to do that, but Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed the boy anyway. [u]According to a lawyer hired by Martin's family, who interviewed Martin's girlfriend, Martin told the girl that someone was following him but said he wasn't going to run away as she urged him to[/u].
What happened next is in dispute and will have to be decided at trial, but [u]Zimmerman told police he feared for his life when he shot Martin dead. Zimmerman also reportedly had head injuries, allegedly caused during a scuffle with Martin[/u]. [b]Zimmerman wasn't arrested immediately after the incident, but there has been so much pressure brought by Martin's family and civil rights activists over the case that it was probably inevitable that charges would be brought[/b].
[u]Based on what I know about the facts of the case, I don't think they're likely to get a jury to convict Zimmerman of second degree murder. Even manslaughter might be a stretch,[/u] given Florida's stand your ground law, which says that a person in fear of his life, who is not committing an unlawful act, does not have to flee from danger but can confront the attacker. I thought reckless endangerment charges, or the local equivalent, would be much more reasonable since Zimmerman's choice to follow Martin instead of staying in the car, as was strongly suggested by the dispatcher, set off the entire incident with its tragic consequences.
[u]It sounds to me like Martin, afraid for his own safety, turned on Zimmerman and, if Zimmerman's statement is true, physically attacked the man who had been following him before Zimmerman could attack him. If Martin had killed Zimmerman instead of the other way around, he might be the one facing charges and would also be likely to be acquitted.[/u]
Even reckless endangerment might be a hard conviction to get, though. As someone pointed out to me, [u]Zimmerman wasn't breaking any laws when he got out to follow Martin. He was under no obligation to obey the dispatcher's instructions. He had a legal permit to carry the gun he used to shoot Martin. Even if he "profiled" Martin as a possible danger because he was a black teenager wearing a hoodie, Zimmerman wouldn't have been breaking any laws, even if he was acting under racist assumptions. It is not against the law to simply ask someone what he is doing in the neighborhood[/u]. Zimmerman sounds to me like a wannabe cop. He has a background of making lots of 911 calls to report suspicious activity in the neighborhood and failed to complete a couple of law enforcement training programs. [b]He probably bears a lot of moral responsibility for what happened, but I don't think he's legally responsible[/b].
I predict Zimmerman will be acquitted of second degree murder charges, unless the prosecution is especially good at picking a sympathetic jury and Zimmerman's defense team is enormously incompetent, but it will be interesting to see how the case progresses.



Vayan comprando sus "I Am Trayvon Martin" hoodies...Les van a servir para esconder el bochorno cuando Zimmerman salga no-culpable...

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[quote]La izquierda racialista anda buscando la manera de galvanizar el voto negro que de por si ya esta descontento[/quote]

Parece que la derecha racista esta haciendo lo imposible para perder el voto negro...



Another racist teabagger...... :idiot:


[b] Miami Firefighter: Trayvon Martin Was the Product of Sh*bag Welfare Parents[/b]


April 16, 2012By [url="http://www.addictinginfo.org/author/moishgil/"]Mitchell S. Gilbert[/url]

[url="http://tentofabraham.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/brian-beckman.jpg"][img]http://tentofabraham.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/brian-beckman.jpg[/img][/url] Capt. Brian Beckman of the Miami Dade Fire-Rescue Department
Progressive thinking people who are genuinely committed to equality know all too well that when many political conservatives promote policies that limit the rights of women, LGBT people or decimate government social assistance programs for the poor, they are, whether they acknowledge it or not advancing policies that reflect their personal prejudices.
Personally, I say congratulations to tea-party type conservative Republicans who don’t mince their words and just openly express what they are really thinking. I may despise and totally reject their bigotry and logic, but I respect their audacity.

Brian Beckman, a captain with the Miami Dade Fire-Rescue Department is just such courageous fool. Beckman had the chutzpah to tell his Facebook friends and the world just what he thinks about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, African-American youth and their parents:
[indent=1]
“The state seeks reelection again, truth aside. I and my coworkers could rewrite the book on whether our urban youths are victims of racist profiling or products of their failed, sh*tbag, ignorant, pathetic, welfare dependent excuses for parents, but like Mrs. Corey, we speak only the truth. They’re just misunderstood little church going angels and the ghetto hoodie look doesn’t have anything to do with why people wonder if they’re about to get jacked by a thug.”[/indent]
These days it is not at all unusual to hear pundits on Fox [i]Noise[/i] and other conservative commentators decry how the political left has turned the Trayvon Martin case into a “racial incident” because as we all know, race had absolutely nothing to do with George Zimmerman’s pursue and violently confronting an unarmed kid in a hoodie who was just minding his own business. Trayvon Martin had to be up to no-good; “those types” always are. That’s not racism, that’s just how it is!
When asked about his posting, Beckman said it is his right as private citizen to express his point of view when off duty. The Miami Dade Fire-Rescue Department would only say in response to queries about Beckman’s Facebook posting that the matter is [i]under investigation.[/i]
Bravo Brian Beckman. Your candor may cost you your job, but your verbal assault on African-Americans will probably land you employment with one the countless Republican entrepreneurs in your area. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Rush Limbaugh or Bill O’Reilly don’t launch a fundraising campaign in support of your victimization by the liberal elite.
Incidentally, neither of Martin’s parents are dependent on welfare. His mother works at the Miami-Dade Housing Authority (the same municipality that employs Captain Beckman) and his father is a truck driver. [url="http://tentofabraham.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/brian-beckman1.jpg"][img]http://tentofabraham.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/brian-beckman1.jpg[/img][/url] Beckman’s controversial Facebook posting

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Ja, ja, ja... Por que no te lanzaste al website del partido comunista????? poco te falto.

En la pagina del Miami Herald, hay unaencuestasobre el bombero este y los resultados van 59% a favor de que su opinion es personal y no debe ser castigado... [url="http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/15/2750666/miami-dade-firefighter-under-investigation.html"]http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/15/2750666/miami-dade-firefighter-under-investigation.html[/url]

En via de mientras, la izquierda practica la tactica de callar a la oposicion por medio de costarles su empleo. Deberian tratar esto:

[b] Yes, Calming The Storm of Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman Related Racial Violence.[/b]



April 17, 2012 by [url="http://thyblackman.com/author/ThyBlackMan/"][color="#7a3254"]Staff[/color][/url]

([b]ThyBlackMan.com[/b]) [u]As a black conservative Tea Party patriot[/u], I have been struggling with what I should do, if anything, in response to the rash of incidents of racial violence resulting from the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case. Folks, a great evil is running the show in our country right now
[u]Prolific race-hustler Al Sharpton is heralded as a hero. [url="http://bit.ly/IIUZR5"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/IIUZR5[/color][/url] Attorney General Eric Holder ignores the New Black Panther “dead or alive” bounty on George Zimmerman. [url="http://bit.ly/HM1Aiq"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/HM1Aiq[/color][/url] Three major TV networks are caught manipulating facts of the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case to fuel racial hatred and anger. [url="http://bit.ly/HchWtZ"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/HchWtZ[/color][/url] Minister Farrakhan tweeted referring to the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case, [i]“Where there is no justice, there will be no peace. Soon and very soon, the law of retaliation may very well be applied.”[url="http://yhoo.it/GPnyxc"][color="#7a3254"]http://yhoo.it/GPnyxc[/color][/url][/i][/u]
[b]Even a nut case white supremacist group have thrown their hat, or skinned heads, into the ring, threatening violence. [url="http://bit.ly/IsEp8G"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/IsEp8G[/color][/url][/b]
[b]Rather than showing pictures of 6’3” seventeen-year-old Trayvon Martin, nearly every TV news broadcast features pictures of Trayvon as an adorable little boy in his little league football uniform[/b]. [u]This is done by design to further the media’s storyline: innocent-little-black-boy-murdered-by-evil-racist-white-man[/u]. [b]George Zimmerman is not white. He is Hispanic[/b]. To further the mainstream media storyline, the [i]New York Times[/i] has deemed George Zimmerman, a “[i]white[/i]” Hispanic. [url="http://wapo.st/HilSiA"][color="#7a3254"]http://wapo.st/HilSiA[/color][/url]
I do not know what transpired between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. I do know that [b]the Race Industry has gone to extraordinary, dishonest lengths to promote its innocent-little-black-boy-murdered-by-evil-racist-white-man storyline[/b].
Even president Obama despicably and masterfully fueled the flames of racial hatred by saying, “[i]If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin[/i]”. [url="http://bit.ly/HTrpcO"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/HTrpcO[/color][/url] As a seasoned professional politician, president Obama surely knew his comment would up the ante of black rage.
So yes, as Christian and as patriot, I wondered, what should I do to help calm the storm of Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman related racial violence? Should I rally black conservatives to denounce the violence and call for unity at a press conference? No, the liberal biased mainstream media would not cover such a press conference. [b]Non-victim-minded blacks do not fit the media-desired image of America. Blacks who love their country without resentment toward fellow Americans who are white are as repulsive to the mainstream media as showing Dracula the cross.[/b]
Well, what about a racial peace rally – blacks and whites standing together, singing songs and talking about unity. No, Obama’s SEIU thugs and/or the New Black Panthers could exploit the event by showing up to assault patriots.
[b]Remember Kenneth Gladney, the black conservative who was beaten and sent to the emergency room by SEIU thugs at a town hall meeting during the health care debates? [url="http://bit.ly/OCx7g"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/OCx7g[/color][/url] Many believe Gladney’s beating was in response to Obama White House’s clarion call to “push back twice as hard” and get in the faces of those opposing Obamacare[/b].
[u]The mainstream media will never tell the truth about black-on-white crime. When reporting incidents of black-on-white violence, the media walks a tightrope, bending over backwards to avoid mentioning race[/u]. And yet I heard a report on the radio in which the reporter, without hesitation, up front and in your face said five “[i]black[/i]” men were shot by a “[i]white[/i]” male in a white pickup truck. This type of story fits the racist image that the media desires to portray of white America. According to the media, blacks are ALWAYS the victims and never the aggressors. [url="http://bit.ly/IBgnXa"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/IBgnXa[/color][/url]
So how do we right-thinking, decent Americans counter all the racial hate, evil and violence, fueled by media and the Obama administration, that’s contaminating our great country?
Mary is away, up north visiting family. Thus, I found myself in the grocery store checkout line with my shopping cart one-third full. An elderly white gentleman in line behind me had two items. [i]“Excuse me sir – you can go in front of me.”[/i] He gleefully replied, [i]“Thank you very much.” [/i]After the cashier had bagged his items and given the elderly white gentleman his change, he thanked me again.
I thought, that’s it! For now, until God leads me otherwise, I can simply continue doing what I, along with millions of my fellow Americans, do every day: seize every opportunity to spread racial harmony and kindness. I know that sounds corny, but I know it is the right thing to do.
[u]Despite what the Race Industry would have you believe, a majority of Americans are not at each other throats, divided along racial lines. However, this is unquestionably the agenda of the Race Industry. Incidents of race related violence are on the rise since the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman incident. [url="http://bit.ly/HJ1djA"][color="#7a3254"]http://bit.ly/HJ1djA[/color][/url][/u]
[b]Most Americans are over “[i]the race thing[/i].” Americans live, work and play together just fine. Interracial marriage is far from being the big deal it was in the past. Unfortunately, it is the mission of the mainstream media, the Obama administration and race profiteers to keep the Race Industry alive and profitable. These people ([i]race instigators and exploiters[/i]) are evi[/b]l.
Therefore, it is up to us – proud responsible Americans – to continue sowing seeds of racial harmony, brotherhood and peace.

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Ja, ja, ja... Por que no te lanzaste al website del partido comunista????? poco te falto.

En la pagina del Miami Herald, hay unaencuestasobre el bombero este y los resultados van 59% a favor de que su opinion es personal y no debe ser castigado... [url="http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/15/2750666/miami-dade-firefighter-under-investigation.html"]http://www.miamihera...estigation.html[/url]

En via de mientras, la izquierda practica la tactica de callar a la oposicion por medio de costarles su empleo. Deberian tratar esto:

[b] Yes, Calming The Storm of Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman Related Racial Violence.[/b]



April 17, 2012 by [url="http://thyblackman.com/author/ThyBlackMan/"][color=#7a3254]Staff[/color][/url]

([b]ThyBlackMan.com[/b]) [u]As a black conservative Tea Party patriot[/u], I have been struggling with what I should do, if anything, in response to the rash of incidents of racial violence resulting from the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case. Folks, a great evil is running the show in our country right now
[u]Prolific race-hustler Al Sharpton is heralded as a hero. [url="http://bit.ly/IIUZR5"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/IIUZR5[/color][/url] Attorney General Eric Holder ignores the New Black Panther “dead or alive” bounty on George Zimmerman. [url="http://bit.ly/HM1Aiq"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/HM1Aiq[/color][/url] Three major TV networks are caught manipulating facts of the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case to fuel racial hatred and anger. [url="http://bit.ly/HchWtZ"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/HchWtZ[/color][/url] Minister Farrakhan tweeted referring to the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case, [i]“Where there is no justice, there will be no peace. Soon and very soon, the law of retaliation may very well be applied.”[url="http://yhoo.it/GPnyxc"][color=#7a3254]http://yhoo.it/GPnyxc[/color][/url][/i][/u]
[b]Even a nut case white supremacist group have thrown their hat, or skinned heads, into the ring, threatening violence. [url="http://bit.ly/IsEp8G"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/IsEp8G[/color][/url][/b]
[b]Rather than showing pictures of 6’3” seventeen-year-old Trayvon Martin, nearly every TV news broadcast features pictures of Trayvon as an adorable little boy in his little league football uniform[/b]. [u]This is done by design to further the media’s storyline: innocent-little-black-boy-murdered-by-evil-racist-white-man[/u]. [b]George Zimmerman is not white. He is Hispanic[/b]. To further the mainstream media storyline, the [i]New York Times[/i] has deemed George Zimmerman, a “[i]white[/i]” Hispanic. [url="http://wapo.st/HilSiA"][color=#7a3254]http://wapo.st/HilSiA[/color][/url]
I do not know what transpired between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. I do know that [b]the Race Industry has gone to extraordinary, dishonest lengths to promote its innocent-little-black-boy-murdered-by-evil-racist-white-man storyline[/b].
Even president Obama despicably and masterfully fueled the flames of racial hatred by saying, “[i]If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin[/i]”. [url="http://bit.ly/HTrpcO"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/HTrpcO[/color][/url] As a seasoned professional politician, president Obama surely knew his comment would up the ante of black rage.
So yes, as Christian and as patriot, I wondered, what should I do to help calm the storm of Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman related racial violence? Should I rally black conservatives to denounce the violence and call for unity at a press conference? No, the liberal biased mainstream media would not cover such a press conference. [b]Non-victim-minded blacks do not fit the media-desired image of America. Blacks who love their country without resentment toward fellow Americans who are white are as repulsive to the mainstream media as showing Dracula the cross.[/b]
Well, what about a racial peace rally – blacks and whites standing together, singing songs and talking about unity. No, Obama’s SEIU thugs and/or the New Black Panthers could exploit the event by showing up to assault patriots.
[b]Remember Kenneth Gladney, the black conservative who was beaten and sent to the emergency room by SEIU thugs at a town hall meeting during the health care debates? [url="http://bit.ly/OCx7g"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/OCx7g[/color][/url] Many believe Gladney’s beating was in response to Obama White House’s clarion call to “push back twice as hard” and get in the faces of those opposing Obamacare[/b].
[u]The mainstream media will never tell the truth about black-on-white crime. When reporting incidents of black-on-white violence, the media walks a tightrope, bending over backwards to avoid mentioning race[/u]. And yet I heard a report on the radio in which the reporter, without hesitation, up front and in your face said five “[i]black[/i]” men were shot by a “[i]white[/i]” male in a white pickup truck. This type of story fits the racist image that the media desires to portray of white America. According to the media, blacks are ALWAYS the victims and never the aggressors. [url="http://bit.ly/IBgnXa"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/IBgnXa[/color][/url]
So how do we right-thinking, decent Americans counter all the racial hate, evil and violence, fueled by media and the Obama administration, that’s contaminating our great country?
Mary is away, up north visiting family. Thus, I found myself in the grocery store checkout line with my shopping cart one-third full. An elderly white gentleman in line behind me had two items. [i]“Excuse me sir – you can go in front of me.”[/i] He gleefully replied, [i]“Thank you very much.” [/i]After the cashier had bagged his items and given the elderly white gentleman his change, he thanked me again.
I thought, that’s it! For now, until God leads me otherwise, I can simply continue doing what I, along with millions of my fellow Americans, do every day: seize every opportunity to spread racial harmony and kindness. I know that sounds corny, but I know it is the right thing to do.
[u]Despite what the Race Industry would have you believe, a majority of Americans are not at each other throats, divided along racial lines. However, this is unquestionably the agenda of the Race Industry. Incidents of race related violence are on the rise since the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman incident. [url="http://bit.ly/HJ1djA"][color=#7a3254]http://bit.ly/HJ1djA[/color][/url][/u]
[b]Most Americans are over “[i]the race thing[/i].” Americans live, work and play together just fine. Interracial marriage is far from being the big deal it was in the past. Unfortunately, it is the mission of the mainstream media, the Obama administration and race profiteers to keep the Race Industry alive and profitable. These people ([i]race instigators and exploiters[/i]) are evi[/b]l.
Therefore, it is up to us – proud responsible Americans – to continue sowing seeds of racial harmony, brotherhood and peace.
[/quote]

En donde???? en el MIAMI herald? Ahhhhjajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja. Oye y Miami es ahora el "beacon" de la libre expresion en tu nacion?

Se te fue la guagua pitiyanqui!!!!

Bruta.. bruta... bruta....

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Sigues hablando sin saber... Busca de donde tú jefa escarbo el articulito... Que bueno es tener adversarios que ademas de ser incompetentes son guevones...

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1334717016' post='2950150']
Sigues hablando sin saber... Busca de donde tú jefa escarbo el articulito... Que bueno es tener adversarios que ademas de ser incompetentes son guevones...
[/quote]

Mejor examinemos tus motivaciones en este tema y lo poco que sabes de como los demas piensan y ven esta situacion. Te has agarrado de todo y hasta ahora todos tus argumentos se han caido. Ahora se te ocurre confiar en una encuesta del nada mas que el Miami Herald, un periodicucho amarillista radicado en la republica bananera de tu nacion, donde una manada de gubanos republikkkanos llegados en balsa han secuestrado la libertad de expresion que los pitiyanquis como tu cacarean tanto que existe. Fijate que aqui nadie puede reclamar que te esta dando una salsa, porque la salsa te la has dado tu misma. Deja de autoflagelarte negrita, no seas tan bruta!!!! POL FAVOLLLL

Bendito nene

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[quote name='charlie319' timestamp='1334305085' post='2949933']
I predict Zimmerman will be acquitted of second degree murder charges, unless the prosecution is especially good at picking a sympathetic jury and Zimmerman's defense team is enormously incompetent, but it will be interesting to see how the case progresses.

Vayan comprando sus "I Am Trayvon Martin" hoodies...Les van a servir para esconder el bochorno cuando Zimmerman salga no-culpable...
[/quote]

bochorno?
eso es lo que tu piensas? sigue leyendo tus noticias de fuentes extremistas de derecha ...

si ese tipo sale inocente, creo que van a haber disturbios como cuando Rodney King.

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